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  1. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This is her plan. Then all she has to do is say 'we are the Party that respects the will of the people'. He's equally hoping she will do the same.
  2. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Grendel and Captain Dart do.
  3. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bit like yours then.
  4. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It very much is down to what you perceive as leadership. Some people see leadership as fist shaking, soundbites and fancy suits. Some people see leadership as having a vision of how you will make the country a better place. Take the election, Labour's manifesto was on how to improve the...
  5. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You failed to mention the other poll yesterday that put Labour ahead by 2 points. In fact every pollster other than Tory You Gov has Labour level or ahead... makes you wonder about the You Gov agenda.
  6. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A theory: Previously we had no-deal, May's deal and no Brexit on the table. If Corbyn (and the SNP) want to remove no-deal it leaves her deal or no Brexit. Deep down both May and Corbyn know that no Brexit is electoral suicide, she is desperate for him to come out and back it, and likewise the...
  7. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    She could well be bullshitting, or suggesting discussion has taken place when simply its a call to request their presence.
  8. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you not think it’s odd that she conversed with the ones that all want a 2nd Ref/Peoples Vote. Yet the one who in reality wants to see Brexit through has not engaged with her?
  9. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I see your point. My take is that if we remove no-deal then we at least narrow down the possible outcomes.
  10. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you think his no-deal condition is unreasonable? Let’s be honest our government aren’t capable of implementing it.
  11. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    More shit and drivel. Captain Dart will be talking it up as the greatest speech of the 21st Century.
  12. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You don’t half talk some shite. Gove was the worst education secretary in history, and his speech was merely a load of bullshit pulled off the front pages of The Sun that his mate Murdoch sent him. Like the Tories in general, no plan, no strategy, nothing to offer the country other than ‘don’t...
  13. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Tell them about this thread... we can take over the negotiations instead.
  14. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    On the contrary actually, Labour will lose more seats if they back a 2nd referendum due to the geographical nature of Labour voters and their remain/leave preferences. That's why their stance has been like it is. Their northern strongholds are at risk as they ALL voted leave, and backing a 2nd...
  15. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’ll assume your May comment on the NHS is tongue in cheek?! Double digit lead is simply nonsense. According to the polling you refer to he clawed back a 20% deficit. And you think he couldn’t do something even half the size of that from an even keel if we had another GE? The country is torn...
  16. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Does that make you Dan Hodges?
  17. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Probably correct - but which ‘side’ is going to address the massive under investment in the NHS, Education, Welfare etc?
  18. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The centrists IMO don’t want to be reached out to. The Labour manifesto was the best thing to come out of the party for 15 years, and they sadly won’t subscribe to it. It’s not in keeping with the Blair’s neo-liberal way. Also worth pointing out that across Europe every centre-left/centrist...
  19. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I respectfully disagree - 2017 suggests that transformative policies are popular because it represent change with the London centric funding culture of the last 40 years.
  20. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If Labour had a centre left leader in 2017, then we would have a Tory majority government now. The era of centrist Blairite leaders for Labour is over. Blair put pay to that by being Thatchers greatest creation. Umunna and that ilk represent smooth taking bullshitters in the game for their own...
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