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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m not without biases, no one is completely free from that. Public opinion regularly polls in favour of higher taxation on the highest earners and is generally in favour of nationalising the railways (even among Tory voters) and utilities. Objectively, they are popular policies among part of...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s a moot point because Cameron wasn’t running against Corbyn and May is still PM and any other GE this year will probably be May v Corbyn. If we’re objective here, the Labour Party went into the 2017 GE with some popular policies. May would probably frame another GE around the single issue...
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    Jodi Jones

    We need to bring him back slowly, so we’ll have to get at least 2 wingers in the summer. For me, we almost have to ‘shelve’ him in the sense that we should plan our squad on the assumption he won’t come back. If he comes back, he can play a role as a sub, and work his way from there! He looked...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s a catch-22, they probably would’ve been punished electorally had they not back devolution. The result has definitely dented Labour’s chances — to lose 40 seats in single GE was devastating.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yvette Cooper’s leadership bid in 2015 was terrible. Her big idea for Britain was for a ‘more feminist society’ whilst arguing Corbyn presented ‘old solutions to old problems’. With quite literally zero concrete policy ideas. It was a farce and she represents the Blairite/Brownite Old Guard...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Frankly, the Labour Party is unlikely to be able to form a majority Government until it regains most of the seats it lost in Scotland. The party consistently had 40+ seats in Scotland before 2015 to 7 seats in 2017. That fact doesn’t change whoever is leader of the Labour Party from whichever...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A Brexiteer Tory PM would probably split their party even more. But, then again, the party looks like it will split pretty badly if May gets lured into remaining in the CU. That wouldn’t bother me much though. Both Labour and Conservative are treading on thin ice and a wrong move from either...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Technically, yes but there’s nothing stopping Parliament invoking it if it voted too again.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Legally speaking, that’s an option the UK has, that’s what the European Courts ruled. I don’t think that’s the course of action we should take, but the claim ‘No Deal’ cannot be avoided is simply not a true claim. The option is there if need be.
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    Piece in the Metro with Doyle.

    Doyle probably would rather be playing, but, if he’s pragmatic, he knows at 37 he’s close to packing up and can’t expect to be involved as much.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It can, actually. Even if the EU refused to extend Article 50, hypothetically. If push come to shove, the Government could revoke, then re-invoke Article 50 to restart the 2 year process of us leaving the EU. That is, if you want to be technical.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Obviously, he is trying to corner May! Equally, May is trying to corner Corbyn to adopt a second referendum as Labour Party policy. Both parties have wings of their parties to placate on Brexit. How can the opposition have a coherent policy on Brexit? It is not negotiating with the EU so can...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How much clearer can 'take no deal off the table', 'keep us in the customs union' with 'protections for workers and the environment' -- the Labour position is clear. The opposition doesn't need a clear cut policy because we're not in an election cycle so has the privilege of keeping all its...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There's an array of options. First, a simple 'in or out' ref. Second, two-stage referendum (current deal v no deal if Leave won again). Third, an AV or STV method of voting with Remain, deal and no deal on the ballot paper. My personal preference is a two-stage referendum.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The situation at hand right now wouldn't allow it as the Electoral recommend at least 6 months to organise a referendum, taking that and Government's recommendation, you need at least 6-12 months. With the chaos in Parliament over Brexit, it wouldn't surprise anyone if a GE was called. Frankly...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So what is a referendum by definition? The definition I have is 'a general vote by the electorate on a single political question which has been referred to them for a direct decision'.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I was for an election then, and I am for an election now. But, to say the Tories weren’t politically motivated to take advantage of the massive gap in the polls is an incredibly naïve position to take. If May really believed in mandates as strongly as she did in 2017, she would put her deal to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s a valid view point. But, it also happened to be the case that Labour were 20% behind and looked like they would’ve got pummelled to the tune of their worst ever election result of the modern era.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It ought to be above party politics, but it’s not. The Government has been just as, if not more guilty than the Opposition, of playing politics with Brexit. The unnecessary election of 2017 is indicative of that.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Labour shouldn’t take any notice of this because they need Tory rebels to vote against the Government to win such a vote. The only way this is possible is if a no deal Brexit is the alternative. In this scenario, to believe the other opposition parties wouldn’t back a motion of no confidence if...
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