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Not sure that's relevant to the point I'm making which is not about the fee received as such but the inability of CCFC to turn down a deal altogether

I can barely remember the last time he had a shot when he played, genuinely don't think he's what we're missing at all.

He's never going to fare better in a Championship side, he's nowhere near good enough and the game at Championship level is more physical not less, it's physically in the sense of the pace that it is played at.

I doubt many clubs outside of the top flight genuinely have the sort of bargaining power you describe, it is nonsense. The player would be unsettled straight away. In any event that's why you need targets, not a single target.

I think it seems pretty clear that our model isn't well developed if it even exists, you'd expect a pipeline of targets to replace players so we can sell at the opportune time. It doesn't sound like we have that at all.

I think so but on the premise that he'd be replaced with better. What's actually happened is that he hasn't even been replaced.

People have some bizarre idea that only the buyer has leverage in a negotiation!

McFadz is the key one to get back as soon as he's ready though

Would have them all back on the bench asap.

Apart from CCFC under SISU who have somehow managed to still be in a weakened bargaining position forced into selling players in January (Leon Best, Jutkiewicz, Madison, McCallum)

Bradford as well

Ramsdale makes a brilliant save one minute then that

And of course savings on the wage bill can do a great job

And the most worrying thing this is in the initial period after a takeover

A leg extension would be better

They showed him on Sky almost shaking his leg out as if he just hasn't got full movement at his hip.

Sunderland look decent, better than they did when we played up there. Got to give it to Mowbray that he does get teams playing attractive football.

Well somebody has just said they'd take him plus £12m for Gyokeres [emoji23]

It's helpful to ignore Waghorn's 100+ other games at this level to make your point isn't it