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Also, from the Willis one, you can just see there's some white on the back. So it doesn't look like there'll be the blue panel.

Haha, they're bloody useless! Well, Tudgay, Maddison and Willis are anyway! One of them needs to do the away kit now

Yeah, especially on the right... Go near Philips for immolation

You talking about the kit or the club there?

We've had it a few times since then. Including last season! But also my favourite kit of recent times, when Jordan Henderson played for us.

For early bird or overall? I'd hope it's more than that overall. I think you'll get a little surge in the last 2-3 days of early bird.

Ivan Guerrero... My word! Who was the other one? Martinez?

Nope, apparently Delorge retired a couple years ago, so I was wrong.

Maybe Laurent Delorge? Although he didn't play much in the prem, I think we had him before we went down?

And the official site not happy because he didn't wait for them to announce it! Ha, good boy!

At least we won't get "your shops too big for you" songs thrown at us

Whereas your contribution is setting up a take over by a multi-billion pound conglomerate?

April looks like a particularly hard month.

Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere, but there's a rumour we're after this guy. http://72andbelow.co.uk/terriers-gobern-could-join-mowbrays-coventry-city/ Mentioned at the bottom of that article.

Where have I said anything like that? You're working yourself up into a stupor over something neither of us can control and automatically blaming the club when I'd suggest a lot of it's beyond their control. Just find a hobby during the summer or something to occupy yourself.

Reckon he just meant it seems like you've had a few knocks round the head from what you write!

For crying out loud, it's June 10th. 2 months till the start of the season. Have you got nothing better to do than moan about how quickly the kits coming out - which, by the way, is the manufacturers job. Chelsea haven't brought their kit out yet either, sooo disorganised.

Hence the "more realistic" aspect. As long as we don't lose to someone awful that dents confidence I'm not really bothered!

Any realistic shot at Wembley... JPT is more realistic than league cup. Bottom of the list for me too.

Bit racist that!