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Mmmmm, "keep the heat on" GR vis a vis who else wanted in in 2007 is also putting the heat on Council who - according to GR - favoured Sisu. Are you suggesting that this interested party might still be out there?

Yes, but maybe that wasn't their aim?

Completely different situations. Sunderland are answerable to their fans. Politics is bigger than Sport. Di Canio has never renounced Italian Fascism. He should and in unequivocal terms. The fact that he hasn't - indeed he frequently ducks the issue - shows that he should not be in public...

BACK ON TOPIC This is an important and highly valuable point. Just why is it that the CET is allowing itself to be used as a lever to pressurise the relevant parties today when the club is actually in the hands of the administrator:confused: As the CET is being contacted to spout this stuff...

When GR appeared at the Bob Ainsworth Parliamentary debate I felt then that there was more to this than anybody could realistically be expected to know. Now, with GR contradicting himself so clearly from his 2011 statement it is clear that something has happened....but what? You are right...

Well done OSB for digging this out. This was certainly my recollection too. So, what has changed in the interim?? Anyone care to speculate?

Yeah, in spite of our best intentions you just can't wash a club out of your hair......

Which is why 2 years would have been sensible.

It'd not be so bad 'cept the clowns that run the club gave him 3.5 years.

Procdoc, there's no "real fan" definition. Supporters of a F.C. are a broad church. How can it be otherwise? Anyway, you're doing the right thing, for sure.

Got a mate who's a lifelong Arse supporter. A couple of years ago they were in a Champions League final and he was praying they'd win.....not for the obvious reason tho' but so he could give up going.....knowing they'd done it all. Poor bugger. It was something I could identify with because I...

I scored 93% in that survey.......and I was reminded of summat an anvcestor of mine said: "We should not have children unless we can educate them better than we were educated or feed them better than we were fed." Amen to that.:guitar2::guitar2::guitar2:

I like the idea of a "godlike" intervention. Full of "laying waste" and a bit of "smoting". Biblical retribution wouldn't go amiss neither.

Triple-dip F.C!

Nobody wins but club loses?!? Wtf?

Oh dear! x 60 million times. I suppose at the end of the day people will see what they want to see. ACL could always install a specsavers on the concourse, why not?

Wouldn't be the first time, HOWEVER, I think in this case (still to be proven, of course) IF it is because of more sisu ineptitude they will have lost any semblance of credibility.

I do think the "FIT & PROPER" rules need to be either ditched or properly defined and stuck to. In POINT OF ISSUE: the fiscal arrangements of an anonymous hedge fund allowing it to set up off shore accounts to the potential long term detriment of a club and its fans should not be permitted...

The thing is Sisu's furiously spinning a web of lies kept a few of us on their side. They (Sisu) managed that despite all the evidence. Would things have been brought to a head sooner if we'd all wised up a bit sooner? I include myself in this before anyone thinks I'm having a pop.

Sisu, god how I hate those four letters. The imbecilic management is one thing but the deceit has been hard to stomach.