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I hear suggestions that the rent negotiations are going nowhere atm and haven't moved on for quite some time. Apparently there are no meetings and none planned. Can anybody verify this? In any case, if this is true I wonder why and have come up with this scenario: Sisu have been told that...

I think sisu's actions since they took over the board last March has been mostly right ... there are exceptions with Ken Dulieu being the most spectacular. I have already said this on many occasions. No, we don't know the 'exact' financial situation, but in the geeks section (board and finance...

It could be good offer indeed - providing he also paid out the debts (or a vast amount) and sisu didn't think they could turn around the business and make more money down the road. I think the offer failed on both accounts.

Taking over a debt of £8m is not exactly getting the club for free - not in my book. And taking over a company losing upwards of £10m a year is not getting something for nothing. And for sisu suddenly becoming 'poor ickles innocents' ... well, it was never sisu's own money they invested, and...

Ok, I stand corrected on the contract length, but that doesn't change the fact that the club was out of money and bills had to be paid. Betting on avoiding relegation with Juke in the team could mean no money to pay the players wages. And it that scenario the prospect of losing £4m in turnover...

He didn't!

Yeah, those were happy days with even greater losses than present.

Juke was out of contract, we wouldn't have received any money in the summer. It is not given that we would have avoided relegation with Juke in the team - keeping him would be a gamble with money the club didn't have ... just like Portsmouth did. We didn't spend 500K on the acadamy this summer...

I never went to bed :D Thing is the club was out of money to pay the bills. So something had to be done - among that cashing in on Juke. I have a feeling that many believe sisu as a hedge fund grows money trees in their backyard and always have fresh cash supply ready if needed. Not many...

You suggest we should have followed the path of Portsmouth - fast track to liquidation? Then you go on and say: ... knowing that if sisu hadn't hit the breaks 1½ year ago, we wouldn't have a club to bring players in to.

You are pretty much about telling us we will be in PL in two years ... how can that be "too negative" :D

That would set a presedence. The club would then have to pay what is owed to sisu at some time ...

The topic of 'was there any real alternative buyers to sisu' have been discussed numerous times before - I personally don't believe there was.

Oh I do accept their responsibility - totally. They shouldn't have come here in the first place, but we can count us lucky they did. I also understand that when they came the financial climate was completely different and their original plans were probably right for that climate. I even...

Agreed. Yet the doctor in the house was Ranson. Only when he was dismissed sisu became the new doctor and immediately started to amputate.

I don't buy this 'sisu wanted us relegated' theory - it's like saying they don't know the value of money, when in fact that's probably the only thing they fully know. The squad we had last season should have been enough to secure a low mid-table position, but all the off-field distractions (like...

You don't treat gangrene with a bandage - you amputate or the patience will die.

What happens now is a result of sisu's work since they took over control from Ranson, Hoffaman and Elliott a year and a half ago. Turn-arounds like ours takes time especially in football where players are on long contracts so not easy to get in or get rid off. With only two transfer windows a...

Yes, let's put it down to different personal experiences. Last season was always going to be hard and though we probably had a squad able to acheive at least a mid-table position, the off field turmoil got us relegated. Let's hope this year will see us gain some stability off field and...

Tommy, that really made me laugh! Great humor! :D:D:D But no, we will probably never agree and it is unlikely they will show us their shareholder agreement (maybe somebody could ask Hoffman at the next game?). Let me just add, that the 'simple voting' system is the most used system when more...