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Maybe - but what if ACL in financial terms really was worth nothing? I mean, Sisu have put in some £40m give or take some small change, but if I was to value the club I would probably think it's worthless. The Higgs vs Sisu case was not really about the value of ACL, so there was no attempt...

That's a surprise

How much added time?

surely you mean stools are being thrown ...

Here it comes ....

No verdict yet? Maybe it's a hung jury?

Yeah, it's a hanging judge

Simon Gilbert ‏@TheSimonGilbert 7s Judge is leaving us hanging. He's summing up. Still not sure if we'll get a verdict today...

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Based on Simons and Robs posts I can't see Higgs lose this one.

Simon Gilbert ‏@TheSimonGilbert 2m Judge will retire for five or ten minutes to decide if he can make a judgement today. If he can't it'll be first thing tomorrow or written.

It doesn't need to be a subsidiary or within the group. It can still be owned/part owned by Seppala.

Thanks, I thought as much. This means that all the debt to the original funds are placed in SBS&L while sisu themselves are involved in Otium. What are the chances that SBS&L will be liquidated before the club does?

We're back to the very interesting question: What is the relation between sisu and arvo? Does sisu (or JS) have any interest in arvo?

Liquidate the club? Which they argue was the only option to not be allowed to buy Higgs shares.

There is. And it is true that the formal responsibility for the rent strike decision rests firmly at club management. But I still thought her statement was funny.

Don't tell Astute, he'll have a massive heart attack.

It actually interesting. Yesterday Higgs put distance between themselves and CCC. Today sisu put distance between themselves and club management.

How did Fisher put it ... oh yes, Joy is very hands on at the club.

That just cost them £29K