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Thanks VOR. People are wearing blinkers here. We need to consider everything.

It was part of the whole package,. A complete new thinking and this included a new name, a new kit and a new song. It happened. We changed everything including psychologically.

A kit can also make a difference. It has been scientifically proven. Wearings stripes for instance creates the illusion of players seeming bigger. I am pretty sure that if any team wore a pink kit this could well be considered to be a weakness. Just the way it is.

Well this could only happen with a new owner and a new owner with a vision.

We did play in Sky Blue 100 years ago, but from 1924-1962 we played in either dark blue and white or plain white. We were also nicknamed the Bantams. Hill called us the Sy Blues.

Would think he's been out too long to be honest to consider coming back in. It's been 6 years since he's been in management.

Would prefer to concentrate on getting out of League One first. Anyone who simply dismisses any suggestion of any major changes may wish to read up on our history and see just how much changed when Jimmy Hill took over. He changed everything, the kit, the nickname and created a song to go with...

Bloody hope what you are saying is right. Been too many false rumours on here this season.

It was part of the whole image change and into a whole new way of thinking. It was a cog in the wheel, like the Sky Blue Song and the special trains etc.

As Paxman says, it was a new image under Jimmy Hill. Bet your bottom dollar that back then the City faithful were outraged at the thought of changing to the Sky Blues.

I think some people haven't read up on our history. We were a failing club and Jimmy Hill ripped everything up and started afresh with a blank canvas. The kit, the Sky Blues moniker, the Sky Blue Song, everything. All we are associated with now is abject failure. We need to consider...

This is how we looked about a hundred years ago. We were also known as the Bantams.

i think it is a fair comment, Paxman and it is something I have thought about before. Just think we are forever living in the shadows of those heady days way back when and we just can compete with it. Now people think of the Sky Blues and they think failure. We need to change everything...

Just give them high sixes to celebrate their Championship survival.

You're only saying that because Hillfields is so posh.

I'm pretty sure that's where Jimmy Hill pretty much ended his Korea.

Korean of course.

Sex Pistols released Never Mind The Bollocks. Never thought people would still be talking bollocks some 35 years on though.

That pales in comparison to what happened 35 years ago though.

Seems like you can't have the word Sunderland in a sentence without mentioning stupid.