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if they were miles adrift the tories wouldn't be on the phone to the flat earth society asking them to prop up their government.

We were/are always going to get an awful brexit deal, no matter who was conducting negotiations, May was deluding herself if she thought otherwise.

I'm currently listening to bleating tories, music to my ears!

'lt'll be a price though - I'd imagine the DUP are in a room now drawing up a list. They want the triple lock pension to remain, they want soft brexit, I'm not sure what else, their website keeps crashing!

Sinn Fein don't take their seats so that won't happen. Will be a tory DUP coalition.

crazy to think that a party of flat earth bible bashers now hold the trump card with regard to how we approach brexit, even crazier is that they will push for a soft brexit strategy to maintain the economic benefits that the 'soft' border with the republic has brought about, unthinkable not that...

but he didn't call the party leadership election to strengthen his position, that's what May did and it has back fired.

totally agree. I think Brexit will be a car crash, you don't want to be the party with that on your CV, hence my tin foil hat conspiracy theory that the tories tried to lose the election.

That's fair enough, but that is to do with your mistrust of them to deliver rather than the actual policies they have laid out. It's the same with me, the tory manifesto isn't too bad, but I know they won't deliver. The difference is I have watched this government not deliver for the last 7 years.

yeah, but if you look at parties who traditionally cooperate it's very equal. Add into the mix brexit which is such a contentious issue many MPs will defy the whip and vote against their own party if any brexit related issues make it to a commons vote.

That's not what senior police officers told May. How are Labour weak on immigration - the policy in their manifesto sounded pretty good to me, whether people trust them to implement it is another matter. The tories have missed every one of their net immigration targets.

is that the skybluetalk forum meet up?

the thing is, no matter how strong their campaign had been, people are seeing, and living, with the effects of their swingeing austerity measures. The fact that one trench of their cuts, to the police, was tragically brought into focus by events in Manchester and London during the campaign...

don't agree entirely, Labour used social media to mobilise the youth/student vote, good campaigning. obviously they were aided by a weak manifesto and poor leadership from May.

I still fear the country is in for hard times which ever path brexit takes, I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully this hung parliament may lead to a softer brexit to cushion the blow but reading several economist views of what will happen is a bit worrying. There was as article in the Times recently which...

yeah, the 350 million NHS lie, what a hoot.

voted Labour, though to be fair, Cunninghams list of assentors was a bit of a rogues gallery!

it doesn't need to be, it's on here.

going by this board the biggest threat is some comments made by Jeremy Corbyn 30 years ago. Our PM knocking about with the sponsors of Wahhabism is a trivial consideration.

I'll be shocked by anything less than a tory majority of 30, I think more nearer 40.