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There’s always grifters mate. Every cause has them, Robinson with sex gangs, Farage with Brexit, the White Fragility author, all raking in cash out of initially worthy causes. Both right and left have them in spades.

August bank holiday weekend would be nice. Considering we’re all probably going to have to watch it on the telly anyway.

I have seen some Yank commentators trace it back to post modernist stuff back then to be sure. And it’s a worldwide phenomenon so sadly probably not Tonty Blair behind this.

Ive got him on Facebook last seen crying to leave Boris alone about corona.

All Blair’s fault i tells ya. Force half the population to Uni when they aren’t smart enough for the sciences and you get an explosion in feminist theory and cultural appropriation degrees. Now we’ve got to pretend they’re as valid.

Do you think @hill83 is taking cues from the organisation? Am I?

No we’re in agreement. In the States at least at first BLM had a clear aim of “bring these cops to justice”, later and over here from the start IMO is was unfocused because it had no clear aim and that’s allowed some of the mental stuff to bubble up as well as stopping it being effective. The...

It is grassroots. You’re attributing far too much power to an organisation rather than a general message. And from what I can tell no the EPL aren’t using their logo, they’re just using the phrase.

The first march was clear, “don’t leave Cov”, the rest have been unfocused “down with this sort of thing” protests.

It’s a real problem with a lot of social movements these days. Hard and fast legislation changes aren’t what’s needed and that’s what protest has been effective at. You can’t protest the government about racism in society for example because they don’t have the power to change it. So who are you...

I was joking to the missus that it’s people sick of the sight of their existing house after three months locked up in it. I think there is a point about people thinking about more space either just for the space or for WFH though.

Are you claiming all the millions of people marching and protesting believe everything the leaders of the BLM org believe? If not, what’s your point? That protesters should all leave when someone with shitty views turns up? You just come across as “this isn’t perfect so we should ignore it”...

Could've done with you in about a million threads about CCFC protests.

Let us know how you get on if you go for it. Did look good when I was looking. But as I’m about to move I stuck it in the “sort after the move” pile.

I was looking at that, there’s a few. They all seem to work with a different pool of companies. I was wondering with gas and electric do you need to keep giving meter readings so it knows or does it go off estimated usage? I’d love a law that said companies had to open up to these services...

Im not. I had a house, I lost it in the divorce. Government policy cares not for me.

I get the impression Shipley is just a big fan of football shithousery TBF.

Done. Weird questions as surely after the outbreak everything’s back to normal so why would I change? Also asks about burger vans outside since the outbreak, how would I know? You’re thinking of sex. Gender is a set of social expectations on the sexes. All this options are nonsense to make...

He’s taken it well, last I saw on Twitter he was posting his highlights reel to remind them. For the Twitter transfer conspiracy theorists I saw it because Liam Walsh and Jordan Shipley liked it so he’s obviously signing for us ;)

I don’t think so, Inthink you’re focusing on a few examples from the fringes. As for the bus, good luck getting social change on your own. Some things need a movement of likeminded people.