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But the Jimmy Hill did have an effect I'm sure. It certainly left me in a sombre mood.

Yeah, if it's 2 foot over the city boundary, wouldn't it be very odd for a fan to say he's not going any more?

Yes, the ball did practically loop in and he inexplicably went for it with one hand, while the other arm was down by his side. That all points to what RCC was saying and what TM believes too. It was either the worst goalkeeping blunder humanly possibly, or he was indeed fouled.

We all know what you're thinking .... Red bit as a weapon. ;)

He had a great chance in that first half, but seemed to take an age to try and control the ball.

Tell me about it. 11 is the age, trust me! ;) My daughter was Year 6 until July this year and I barely saw a single swear word on all her social media feeds (Instagram, WhatsApp, Skype, Oovoo) etc.), but starting secondary school this year there has been a sudden, unexpected explosion of bad...

Yes I did. He was lucky to get away with the mistakes he made. They could have quite easily cost us goals. Because they didn't doesn't make him any better than RCC. The only way anyone can justify this argument of RCC being worse because he has cost us goals is if Burge wasn't make just as bad...

I've now come to the conclusion that neither Phillips or Haynes are good enough for what we require, if we want to be challenging at the top of the table.

Sorry, but don't buy this make your own luck. Against Burton, Burge was gotten out of jail by either his defence or the inability of their attackers to take advantage of all the dropped catches. In what way did Burge 'make his own luck' there?

I think as CC4L has said, the arm is round the back of Haynes, so the TV angle would not be a very good angle at all in that circumstance.

Think it was that, combined with the fans waiting for the team to really turn it on, which didn't happen. Think a fair few fans thought the team would win the game for Jimmy, or at least go hell for leather to attempt to do so. Had we scored in the first minute, which we most certainly should...

But if he wasn't, it's the most ludicrous, ridiculous, feeble attempt at stopping the ball ever. It's hard to see on the clip, but you have to come to the conclusion that he had to have been held back, otherwise it was truly dreadful keeping. He only goes for the ball with one arm, so his...

But I'm not saying that. I am saying the game changed when he went off. Can be just as easily be argued that's because we had to re-jig things. Had we had another centre back on the bench it might not have made the difference. Bringing Haynes on weakened the team. I am merely syaing the game...

If you care to check the video back you will see you are wrong. We were at 6's and 7's the moment Turner went off and Oldham were suddenly playing much higher up the field and in our half. CWR confirmed this in the commentary too (Eakin and Jorgensen). No doubt you'll say they don't know what...

Please tell me where I said Turner being injured made a difference offensively? :thinking about: If you care to watch the tape of the game back you will see the minute Turner went off Oldham became a lot more attacking in their approach. It happened immediately the moment Turner went off.

Very, very costly that. I am convinced that had we scored that in the very first minute, then the crowd would have been a lot more vocal and supportive and the confidence would have flowed and we may well have won the match easily.

Totally disagree. Oldham were closing us down high up the pitch at every opportunity and we RCC was having to play the ball long as a result. We were simply unable to play the ball out from the back. The long ball then kept coming back with Oldham in possession because we had no-one to win the...

The cracks ARE beginning to show. A few weeks back TM could do no wrong and now all of a sudden, according to fans he's apparently making lots of 'mistakes.'

Not at all (if Lorentzson is all he seems he is), but then cover is the worry.

Be a lot more worried if we had put that performance in with Turner, Fleck and Ricketts in the side. As 'i said before, losing Turner today made a masisve difference.