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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How long do you think Merkel will be at the helm? We are no where near a federal state. She is not even an MEP. Think you read the Mail or Express rather than the Sun. Your view seems Mailish.
  2. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What is in the Sun Grendel? That vision wasn't presented though and doesn't exist. Just speculation.
  3. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not bad. In other words like the USA, but with more different traditions. Ireland will still be Ireland for example, but a member of a Federal system.
  4. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All speaking one language?
  5. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We certainly have....
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I would say that remain was the second most votes for anything in the history of the UK. Not an insignificant number. But, there we are, a totally unsatisfactory vote ( from the point of view of decision making ). In addition 2 out of 4 countries in the UK voted in a different direction, and...
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Many do. It works usually. The people they don't know are no worse than the people here. Or do you believe that other Europeans are monsters? Did you vote leave?
  8. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, if you read what I said earlier, a 70% + vote for remain or leave would have put the debate to bed. Circa 50:50 is the worse result you could get.
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because it was not necessary and was not done for the good of the Country, but more to do with internal tory politics. We have a functioning parliament and have over hundreds of years not or hardly ever used referenda. We obviously are no good at referenda and have landed with a narrow decision...
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don't infer that, but there are a large number of People who voted for immigration controls - many of those don't like foreigners being in 'their' Country. Are you denying that there are racists in leave and claiming that millions of racist stockbrokers voted remain? Anyway, excepting my...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And at the next bit of bad news it would change again. And so on and so on. Hovering at just above or below the 50% mark. The absolutely worse case situation for a referendum result. A resounding 70% for remain or leave would have put the matter to bed. Should never have happened.
  12. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, exactly. My daughter is going to school in England next term though. Ashdown won't like that. The college is partly funded by the EU. I think all kids should do at least a year in another EU country. We wouldn't be in this position if people lived in each other's countries for a short time.
  13. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. It does happen. Just because you are an immigrant, say from Poland, doesn't mean you can't be racist against, say, afro caribeans - or vice versa.
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    According to some poll - 7% in the leave and 3% in remain.
  15. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Racist insults from remain? Not as likely as from the people who voted for immigration control/ reduction.
  16. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You don't believe it, so it doesn't exist. Great logic. More proof that referenda should only be used for local issues.
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Is this a Boris analagy?
  18. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, I do not accept that more people disagree with me. Not everyone voted and more people think they made a mistake in the leave camp than the remain camp. It could be that more people now agree with me. Why do leavers think that they come across as racist, bigoted, little Engländers? Some...
  19. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You are right to say the EU is not the be all and end all, it is however the safest bet and geographically a logical trading area. Whatever happens long term, we are entering a voluntarily recession. The economy will suffer and people will lose their jobs. The racist attacks and insults have...
  20. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am getting my EU citizenship and remaining. I feel sorry for the UK.
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