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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sensible suggestion, however, from my understanding the EU wouldn’t allow a CU without FOM. Also any trade agreements would be extremely limited (if possible at all)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I agree about the struggles to get something through Parliament and am all for a compromise. However, most indications suggest a customs union would rule out trade agreements with non EU nations and would also require FOM, both of which are high up on a lot of people’s reasons for voting leave...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Haha, there’s no point debating Tony as you obviously have a view as to what ‘the consensus’ would be and that if only May had followed it, the staunch (second referendum) Remainers and (No deal)’ Brexiteers would have disappeared, a fantastic deal would’ve been agreed with the EU and this...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Simplistic view and ignores the extremes on both sides who haven’t wanted to compromise from day one
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bit strong Clint. Each to their own though. I stand by my comment that this mess can not be wholly blamed on one person !
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You don’t really believe that ? Everything ? Come on. She has fucked up the negotiations, if anything by trying to deliver a compromise, but there is no way ‘everything’ can be pinned on her. The vote was split, we hadn’t planned for the outcome and have had numerous crisis of confidence over...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That was a throwaway comment Tony. I did however expect us as a country to pull together in an attempt to get the best deal possible. This is what has annoyed/upset me most since the referendum. I’ve said before how impressed I’ve been with the solidarity of the EU members and their support of...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Referendums related to the European Union - Wikipedia Worth a read. In particular the section on the EU constitution in 2005. The fact that a number of countries including ours planned to hold a referendum, until they saw that the public in other countries were rejecting it, so decided not to...
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    Match Thread Plymouth Argyle vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 19th Jan

    Surely it will eventually click in front of goal ?! Great that we are creating more chances these days.../ cut out the defensive errors and keep the shooting practice up and we will be a decent team (challenging around the top of end of the league)
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    Chelsea interest in Callum Wilson

    Just saw the highlights on MOTD. Played well, his all round game has come along and a real goal threat (appreciate not against the best defence in the league) It’s been said before but genuinely chuffed for him after his injury woes ! Making the best of his ability and good luck to him (come on...
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    Match Thread Plymouth Argyle vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 19th Jan

    Doesn’t count for his stats though, free kick innit !
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    Prince Phillip

    Not sure about draining public purse. Yes, he's had an extremely privileged life but I bet he has put in more hours in recent years than every (or almost every) 90+ year old in the country. I'm not a massive fan of the wider royal family but the Queen and Prince Philips work ethic is and has...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They should have leveraged other things better, part and/or size of divorce payment etc, however, they have been left with nothing else so it might be the lowest possible denominator but these are negotiations
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    [ Love the idea (and thought at one point we should do this), however, I heard this isn't legally possible unless we are committed to remaining. Not sure how the European court of justice could judge on that but it certainly couldn't be used as part of a strategy/negotiation Realistically the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I've been thinking about this a bit (dull, I know). The only way I can think of how the withdrawal agreement might get through (placating enough MPs without pissing off too many of the others), is if there is a commitment putting a vote to either entering a customs union or the backstop at the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes ? And a people’s vote would differ how ? Ps Just to clarify, i was saying I refuse to call it a people’s vote as per Ian’s post trying to differentiate beteeen the two. They’re one in the same
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s rubbish, she was trying to fudge a deal that was acceptable to the EU and also would command a majorly in the commons, knowing labour would vote against she has to try to please her party...do the numbers Corbyn hasn’t wanted a deal because he wants a GE....that’s politicising ! Even...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    PV is a second referendum in all but name ! people try to pretend it’s not by calling it that (I refuse to)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Thats not quite accurate Ian, May has been (rightly in certain areas) slaughtered in some of the media. The fact is Corbyn politicised a massive national issue for his own gain and like May with the calling of the GE early (which I could understand to some extent due to the split in the party...
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