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Of course it has to do with money, but the argument here is that it is better to keep bacteria to a minimum rather than relax the efforts whilst the chickens are alive and then kill all the bacteria in the carcasses. This means production is more expensive in the EU - not price fixing, but...

I pay 800 € a month leasing a Land Rover over 4 years. It is for my business though, so it is not a luxury, but a necessity. It still takes a lot of work to get that in every month. Subsidies Wasps through advertising and Grendel as he works for LR...:-(

So that's that settled then. No reason not to import products of a lower ethical or health standard. More benefits of taking our country back. More efficient production methods = cheaper food. I still think that, although it is tempting to rush into deals which lower standards, we will suffer...

But, for making new trade deals without EU animal welfare Bureaucracy ( even if it is by no means perfect ), and with such people as the Liar in Chief who doesn't give a damn about your favourite charity's aims.

Caveat: usually. Fact is Belgium has borders at airports. Schengen area has borders. Belgium is not an example of a borderless country. Sicily also does have external borders - whether they are respected or not, or whether people of refugee status or claiming refugee status can pass or not...

Belgium is within the Schengen borders. The outer borders are protected / controlled - usually.

Just checked the organic farms website in Germany. 2015: Around 8% in number of farms and 6,4% in arable area in Germany and increasing. Don't know how that compares with Britain.

The question was whether accepting American standards would be an improvement? I am as disgusted as you about the things mentioned in your links ( the Guardian one was 7 years old, so it would be nice to know if things have got better ). Yes there are organic farms in Germany. There are pressure...

Answer the question please.

No. Trump says that, and Liam Fox thinks everything is easy peasy. I am just asking you how you explain contrary positions and you seem to be deflecting at a high rate. Any relationship to KellyAnn?

According to the RSPCA they were neutral. They now hope to use leaving as an opportunity to raise standards in the U.K.. 80% of Animal welfare laws are EU laws, so there is a possibility of some of them being ditched which would be negative. Do you know what they think about the possibility of...

So leaving and doing a deal with the Trumpist States of America will improve the situation as opposed to remaining in the EU and insisting that the bureaucratic rules are followed to the letter? Up until now Trump has appointed anti regulation people and is not enacting Obama laws and...

A very very sweeping statement. Either we are right in leaving the EU because of Brussels' bureaucrats or we should be leaving the EU because there are not enough bureaucrats enforcing their bureaucratic restrictions. A contradiction. Which is it? Less controls or more controls that you hope for...

Germany is always calling for higher standards and reducing animal suffering. They will be the ones for stricter control of British food products should Britain drop their import standards in case they pass banned imports on to the EU. I would have thought you would be on the EU side on this...

Doesn't surprise me. Who needs bureaucracy anyway.... ethical considerations or public health considerations? Na. We need a trade deal sharpish.... If we do import things not approved by the EU, then the EU will have to have stringent border checks to enforce EU import regulations in case...

Unfortunately the most powerful nations are ruled by people like Trump and Putin.

Well, the EU and Merkel talk is a sort of Marshall plan for North Africa. The main reason for leaving family and friends is to escape poverty. The logic is to finance the economy of these countries ( North African ) to create jobs and give people a chance to make a living in their own country...

I merely said that France ( including Macron ) talked about moving the border from Calais back to Dover now that we are leaving the EU after you went on about the "illegals" in Calais waiting to get a chance to come to Britain. You had the unpalatable solutions and mentioned not liking nations...

I only know what you keep repeating on here. You are scared stiff of open borders - which you cannot give an example of. "Open borders" is a catch phrase of Farage. Which puts you in his club. More than that I don't know about you.

I have never said that I think illegal immigration is fine. I wondered about your use of the word "unpalatable solutions" and some of your examples. The U.K. Is an island which makes life easier when you want to control borders. You keep talking about a disastrous situation of nations with no...