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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I would take that and buy you a couple of drinks. Both are just as likely as each other.
  2. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well he probably will, but millions won’t.
  3. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I thought you are a fan of rich people like Trump, Murdoch, Farage, Aaron Banks etc etc. . I am just pointing out that not all rich people follow the populist line.
  4. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you getting behind Tim Fisher and SISU? They are our Brexit.
  5. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You voted to leave, 48% of voters didn’t. That is a large minority and they won’t just think Brexit it is a good idea because you want them to. In fact as time goes on they will become more anti Brexit, unless people like you can show the benefits to them.
  6. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, his ex wife is British, his children have British passports and he loves London. He is disappointed.
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or check the trade arrangements with countries on the EU list: Countries and regions - Trade - European Commission
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ‚Brexit: Michael Bloomberg says leaving EU 'stupidest thing any country has ever done' - apart from electing Trump Former New York mayor says he may not have built his £1bn HQ in London had he known the referendum result‘ fair point
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Brexit is pure ( misguided) self interest. The EU evolved from a project started after the war to bring Europe together. WW11 and WW1 were caused by breast beating nationalists pushing the self interests of their countries at the expense of European interests. Nationalism is growing, and being...
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Err... I think you missed something..the billions are going to Panama and Cayman Islands..
  11. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Actually the reverse of Grendel’s theory is true. We would fight racism, nativism, populists like Farage and Hitler - before they got in a position to invade anyone let alone Jersey. That is what these breast beating plucky Brits are missing. They are the ones wanting to smash Europe- directly...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Funny how when it was the refugees I was wearing daisy chains, now people like me are limp wristed.... do you prefer people who goose step their way to impose common sense on people? As for Farage, his association with Bannon should be the final warning for people who thought he is not extremely...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Passion maybe. Common sense no. You just mean he says what you think and believe that to be common sense. Most people, including politicians and “experts” think that Brexit is one big cockup up until now. Do you pay for the Mail, Express or Sun? If you do, does that confirm that they are in...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is beyond belief that you are counting the rise in the extreme right as justification for your views. It is beyond belief that you are comparing the EU with the Soviet Union. It is beyond belief that you think there wouldn’t be an American court involved in trade disputes. It is beyond belief...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Correction: Germany calculates it’s share of the 10 bn shortfall as 3bn. They say UK was paying 10bn a year subs.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    He was chosen by 26 out of 28 countries. He is the head civil servant. We don’t know who our head civil servants are. And, yes, he appears to be a dick. Germany has estimated ( the DSI ), that they will have to pay 10bn € a year more. They hope to reduce the next EU budget to save some money...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It literally is who knows. At the moment we could still veto things. E.g. an EU Army. We weren’t bullied into Schengen or the Euro. We even bullied the EU into giving us the Thatcher rebate. We also have 73 MEPs in the European Parliament. As regards democracy and transparency... it was the U.K...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You are assuming that the flow of migrants continues at the same rate or more from the EU and forget that around half are non EU at the moment. It would appear that non EU migrants do come to the U.K.. EU net migration is falling. Many EU workers work in unskilled jobs. Who would fill those...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. Not on the compilation that I was quoting. It has been consistently inside a couple of percentage points over 6 months. More recently a nudge in favour of remain. Don’t knows just over 10% the whole time. Question was „with hindsight“ how would you have voted?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think you misjudge how other countries feel about freedom of movement. People move around more and millions cross borders to work or trade every day. Living on an island you don’t see this as normal. With land borders it is and an end to free movement would mean bringing back borders which...
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