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Could've given Giles more of a run though. With his pace he might’ve caused some problems last 15 or so

Not really opening everything up though Pete.... 35m people cant even go to their local boozer or restaurant ! They just won’t be able to fine you if you choose to see a family member/mate outside your bubble. I might be wrong but I get the impression most wont risk mixing with elderly...

Yep

Still probably odds on ! Would play him tonight (assuming fit)

Yeah, no changes to Xmas rules previously stated (for England). Just stronger guidance. Basically not illegal to meet but pretty much advising against mass/multiple gatherings.

I was reading yesterday or day before that the review was going to be today, with release of info tomorrow (not sure if they’d always planned to release info in this way though) Checked the website. Don’t think it’s been updated yet (except London added to T3)

When I say ideological reasons, I mean what they consider to be the essence of the EU (‘the club’) and the fact they trying to protect this. I cant see how what (I understand) is being proposed negatively effects current arrangements with other nations ? Hence me saying a trade deal on its own...

Agreed. On a trade only basis Id imagine a majority, if not all, of the EU member states (and certainly the companies/citizens they represent) will want a deal. It’s whether this breaches idiological positions of the EU ‘organisation’ though

why, what you heard ?

Not sure I can quite agree with that shmmeee (which will surprise many no doubt 😊) Looks like our agricultural policy is due to be more balanced and environmentally friendly than CAP in future though...

Sorry, agreed, the hospitalisations are a decent comparison/comparable. ps rumours that Christmas rules could change. Not sure if I agree with that or not. I’d prefer to arm people with all the relevant info and allow them to make considered choices (as a lot will do anyway) but I guess some...

Brexits a complex subject though Dave and there are a variety/range of reasons people voted to leave. It’s also why whatever is delivered isn’t going to please everyone, even on the Leave side.

In terms of us, I think the aim is to try to have pretty wide ranging free trade agreements (whether the EU previously had one with the other country previously or not). We’re just rolling over current ones to start with (with maybe a few tweaks) I’d imagine as it’s simple/quick and minimise...

Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case...

I agree with some of the above but why would we be kicked around by most nations ? Most have/will sign up to carry over of EU trade agreements. It all comes down to whether countries or blocs want free trade or be protectionist, it will then depend on whether we import more from or export more...

He needs lifting Clint, not kicking when he’s down !!! 😉 Im the same BSB. I won’t risk seeing my mum and step dad and unlikely to even be able to enjoy the boozer with mates (can’t see Birmingham getting out of T3 now...I can but dream though). One year though mate, 2021 will be better !

Wouldn’t be surprised. Also heard quite a few people travelling down to London for day trips (going to pubs etc) probably not helped I was hoping Birmingham would sneak back into T2 on Wednesday. Think the London situation makes it less likely as politically would’ve been difficult not to move...

Nobody can blame you whichever decision you make Andy. Everyone’s circumstances are different and individual to them. It goes without saying but if people are catching up with elderly relatives they can reduce the risks by self isolating as much as possible on run up to visit, meeting outside...

Its why the suggested compromise feels about right (if correct). I think the non regression clause is likely to mean what youre suggesting would be very tricky though SBD. Difficult to say without seeing final text

My point was it’s kind of irrelevant without the bigger picture ie there might be less ‘UK’ boats in our waters as we might’ve hit our quotas. It’s just half of the info/story Agree about no deal. Always said a sensible deal is best all round and hopefully we’re edging In the right direction