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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you think that the Europeans will let Putin through? Without the USA and Britain, Europe is no threat to Russia. They are unlikely to have their own missiles pointing at Moscow. I don’t know what Putin would do if the threats were removed. Pure speculation if you think that he wants to go to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    First of all will be the end of the UK as we know it. N.I. could well be on it’s way. We are soon not to be in a trading bloc and not involved in a European Defence Force. Our influence in the world is evaporating. I think those are pretty big changes.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Partly because of UK citizens rights in the EU. No one wants a tit for tat battle. No one who either is a EU migrant to the UK, or a UK migrant to the EU that is. Uneducated potato pickers in Boston or postal workers in Chatham chomping at the bit for Brexit don’t give a toss of course.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not against young people making money and buying houses. Free movement allows people to move to the country where this can best be achieved. I am sorry to hear what terrible conditions there are in Britain. It is a pity that our young will lose their right to try their luck in Europe- as I...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We need low paid workers in certain sectors. That remains a fact. The housing shortage is also caused by lack of affordable housing being built, speculators holding on to land, and people living longer instead of dying and their houses being put on the market - and, to an extent, new arrivals...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In the case of bright guys, they should always be welcome wherever they come from. I don't see any EU rule to stop them. Germany encourages them ( from places like India ).
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    1. You don't know whether it would be better spent. 2. Do you think food will become cheaper now that we are leaving? I don't. For one thing, we may have difficulty harvesting it. 3. How can competitors not compete if they are all under the same red tape as you claim? The red tape includes...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    1. we won’t be saving the 8,6bn net as we will have to replace the offices of the EU with British bureaucracy and bureaucrats. We lose the benefits of the SM and CU if we don’t pay. 2. how does the CU affect the poorest in society? 3. Deepends on what red tape you are referring to. If it is to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The 30 years wait to be, maybe, better off doesn’t help me. I am 62 and can’t be arsed to wait 30 years for you to tell me at the end of it that you were wrong. Half the country are angry, not just some people. They will only be convinced that you are right if they see things improving in the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Taking a snippet and using it out of context is.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You aren’t referring to Farage then?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ? You just found your crate of Mythos which you bought back from hols?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because it is bad for all sides and even if we get a free trade agreement we are worse off than before. We are negotiating the least bad way round this mess. It ain’t easy. Whose great idea was Brexit? And what sort of person would vote for it?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. We all lose. Even if we get a free trade agreement we won’t be as well off as before. From your link a German opinion: “A free trade agreement would help to reduce the impact of trade barriers in general, but this only a mild instrument compared to full fledged membership of the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You were the one who mentioned a free trade agreement. If we are leaving the SM and CU we are unlikely to get a free trade agreement. Most likely would be the WTO trade terms.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU has never been stronger. What has been exposed is that leaving is not that easy. Let’s see how the UK gets on under WTO rules. Who was unelected in the European Parliament? Name one MEP. Now name one member of the House of Lords who was elected to it.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We have agreed to pay what we owe ( at least some of it ). That means that the EU get what we have signed up for. A big result? Us paying to cover our liabilities? Yes we are weak and divided. Who, or rather, what made us weak and divided? A free Trade Deal will mean staying in the single...
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    Poll: How long will Trump be President?

    PS Steuerreform is passed. Trump and family to save a billion in the next 10 years. KoK must be happy.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Juncker? Tusk? Having had wankers like Farage insulting them for years, I think they will not be working to help us. We have the equivalent of a SISU relationship with them now.
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    Poll: How long will Trump be President?

    He still claims that his reforms won’t benefit him or his friends when it is in black and white that he and his friends benefit most. The end of death tax on his fortune can only benefit his family at the same time as the national debt increases. If he tells everyone they will be paying less...
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