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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Whatever trade deal, immigration deal or Irish border deal there is has to be ratified by MEPs and heads of state from 27 countries. Do you think that they will ratify a deal that is not best for them? Are all these people in on a scurrilous plot organised by a few evil people?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Our culture is based upon being invaded and being the invader. We were raided and sometimes subdued by various tribes throughout our early history. Before and after the Roman invasion and 400 years of being a part of their empire. 1066 saw the invasion and subjection by the Normans. Around...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Friendly constructive way? We’ve got the likes of Davis and Johnson saying stupid provocative things and wanting their cake and eating it. Or that the EU can go whistle... Or May not clarifying what she means by honouring commitments. Or Davis turning up at meetings with no papers on the table...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Actually it is not a wait and see thing. The effects are here now and are being measured. Do you prefer going downwards towards a lower base, or coming upwards from a lower base? If I were younger, I would be looking at countries moving upwards as opposed to a country which has manoeuvred itself...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Seeing as Juncker admitted that an army was not a project of the near future in one of your several posts confirming that there are no plans, I think your title suggestion is quite apt.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. That is exactly what I said. 23 members have signed up to the project- which isn’t an army and which is voluntary. And which, because of the current US attitude that Europe should do more to defend itself, is a very prudent idea.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Juncker said an army is not a project of the near future. Pretty clear to me. As I said... not in my lifetime. He proposed an alternative for the present which does not go nearly as far as creating an army. The Poles have joined up, but have said they would leave if things went too far in this...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Telegraph, Knights Templar
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Going into what? A Defence Union. Each country has it’s own army, but pools some resources such as training and takes part in joint peacekeeping missions. An army is Unified with a Commander in Chief. As long as the armies belong to their national states, there is no EU army.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    At this moment in time there are plans for a European Defence Force. There maybe a European army at some undetermined future date. But that is a long way down the road and may never happen. You read the headlines from right wing sites and believe them. If you read the small print it doesn’t...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There are no plans for a European army.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Election... is what I said... erection is just your speculation ;-) and it would not be an untruth even in your version..
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The British Presse being an Australian billionaire with American citizenship. We will see. I still don’t think there will be an election. Her most loyal supporter being me - ask Grendell....
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „Mr Juncker told German news sit Salzburg.com: “A European army is not a project for the near future. It is, however, a project that would give additional weight to the European foreign and security policy. Even though the road may still be long, we could already focus our strengths better...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In on what? From your post: „BRUSSELS (Reuters) - European Union leaders launched their the most ambitious defense plan for decades on Thursday, agreeing a multi-billion-euro weapons fund, shared financing for battlegroups and allowing a coalition of the willing to conduct more missions...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Where is the army? Monday's defence accord is to see participating states jointly develop rapid reaction forces and new materiel such as tanks and drones. It will also see them create single European logistics and medical support hubs.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „Britain has repeatedly blocked plans for an integrated European defence policy, but other member states have warned it cannot expect to have a say in the issue post-Brexit. There have been growing calls for a single European defence policy in the wake of Donald Trump’s comments that Nato is...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I asked you for links to prove your claims. Where are they?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I didn’t have the choice about ex colonial citizens coming to Europe. These people were allowed in because of the forefathers coming from ex colonies. Nothing to do with Merkel or present day EU policy. They got caught because of EU security cooperation which was increased because of Schengen...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Just for Astute: A more recent leaked document: Leaked diplomatic dossier says Tory party 'chaos' is undermining UK in Brexit talks
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