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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Again, what I said is that there are more older people as a percentage. Even if old people always wanted to stay put, there are simply more of them.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do they work in factories? Some work on conveyor belt jobs. Already pretty automated. Does washing cars matter overall? We have machines for that, but people like a personal service. Automation is there, but some people prefer the hand wash anyway. The same in catering. Go down the pub and push...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The question was a monetary question which did not include the possibility that we pay in to get something out. You asked one side of the equation, but not about our possible wealth or ‚fairness“ based on guaranteed rights etc.. As such, I cannot give an answer to one side of the equation...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    For all Europeans. Even you. You also have human rights. The British taxpayers don’t foot any bills apart from membership, which has benefits. We were doing fantastic economically in comparison to others until Brexit. The queues have several causes. Not least government policies. Our sovereign...
  5. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The sectors where we need migrants are the sectors which are hardest to automise. Such as catering, hotels and care.
  6. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.... all a government conspiracy... Not that a right wing fascist group could be trying to influence people by selective reporting of facts. Are the facts backed up? They could be, but have you checked? Or do you believe this group just because they say it’s true?
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We should never have been asked a binary question on such a complicated matter.
  8. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How much do pay to watch City? You would save money doing other things - or maybe not. The question is whether we will be richer and have a fairer society by paying in? The answer is, based on the present discussions, yes.
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No mate. You cannot see the problems which are coming our way. Ireland is the current one. Brexodus is next on the list, if we cannot get a deal. That is denial.
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. I can imagine. If you had read my posts instead of Breitbart or Swedish Nazi news sources you would have got that earlier.
  11. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If I knew that, I would be a millionaire. By the time we get there I will be 92 and not too fussed either way. My feeling is that we would be worse off going it alone, based on what we know at present.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. You are for once correct. There are millions who love the UK and don’t want to see it suffer- also in Germany. Including me of course. It is terrible watching the self harm done by Brexit. The potential damage to the GFA is my top concern at the moment. I want the UK to coexist peacefully...
  13. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    For some people. Not all by any means.
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I haven’t. Up until recently I have said that I think Brexit is a risky venture and I wouldn’t have done it. Now I am saying that cracks are beginning to appear and it looks as if it is going pear shaped - at least as far as the Irish border is concerned. It is not over yet of course.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. Nazis used the same arguments about human rights piffle. They also found a scapegoat and dealt with it. Amongst others, they persecuted the people who kept on about human rights piffle. They also took away prisoners rights as you suggest. As from 1934 they passed death sentences without the...
  16. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Russia wasn’t the reason remain lost, although there were anti EU troll farms at work which some starry eyed people fell for. Work that out. I can’t be arsed to constantly explain everything to you.
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You just answered your own question. If the EU are not giving us what we thought we would get, then it is going pear shaped.
  18. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I suggest you visit the Dokumentation Zentrum at Nürnberg Langwasser by the Zeppelin field and NAZI Party Congress Centre ( was never completed). There you can read, see and hear how such sentiments became main stream. The were down sides to your way of thinking.. „human rights piffle“...
  19. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, but without external UK land borders.
  20. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The Leave means Leave group.
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