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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I agree with you if the electorate are asked to ratify either by referendum or by an election. That is what leavers were saying about not being consulted every step of the way with EU projects. It would be cheeky not to ask their opinion of the Brexit deal - before leaving.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes it is flawed and I don’t take it as more than an indicator and have said you have to look at what other people are saying. Does it fit in with a pattern? We shall see. Anyway Gove has claimed we don’t need so called experts.... and Davis hasn’t got any impact assessments..... so let’s just...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That is not what he said He said after the election and after we have left, then we will be able to alter any deal. Which is dishonest and I would think that the EU will have twigged that. They can read as well. Honest and fair would be to make any deal dependent on a referendum or an election...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not totally irrelevant as it was taken from several areas. In other words several bags.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Anyone can veto any deal. Gove has also just said the UK can change any deal after leaving the EU. No one wants a lose lose situation. So, basically no news. But good headline for Brexiteers.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Tbf it is not following the Russian troll line which is anti EU.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They told you the size of the survey and who commissioned it. It is in the news anyway, so I think it is fair enough for them to publish it with that information- you can make up your own mind as to it’s relevance. It seems to fit in with what other people claim to have heard. It would be...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    More Northern Irish people want to join the Republic to stay in the EU than stay in the UK
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bertrand Russell was an atheist, so it is not surprising it comes from there. Just surprised there was no link to Muslim terrorism and Breitbart.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It got on here through certain posters. As with Friataden. I knew about Breitbart from my Texas namesake ( real name ). He is a gun toting racist Christian Texan nationalist and sends me links by FB. Apart from our name the only joint interest is craft beer.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You didn’t find that in Breitbart...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh, now I get it. Gove just answered my post: "By the time of the next election, EU law and any new treaty with the EU will cease to have primacy or direct effect in UK law," said Mr Gove, which means the UK could change or reject its agreements with Brussels.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Theresa May’s Brexit deal ‘hard to reconcile’ with UK leaving the single market and customs union, EU says How’s this work? Seems very contradictory. Who is blagging who here?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one. People just post links about Muslim terrorists and how bad Sweden and Germany have become because of Muslim refugees. How they have made Europe unsafe.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bad news is that, assuming I get my German citizenship, I will be able to vote for Schulz to annoy Astute and co..
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Fraud is everywhere and should be chased and punished. The EU budget will be reduced because of Brexit and hopefully things will be rethought to be fairer. I have said often enough I am against corruption, gravy training etc.. I defend attempts to reform. I don’t defend things that are not...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t like gravy trainers and think their „wages“ should be linked to something e.g. average wage or x% above what we count as poverty. If you leave, you lose your vote. That’s democracy and BTW why I haven’t voting rights in the UK...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What was racist or bollocks in his tweet this time? He posted a widely across the board view. Not everyone agrees, but many do. It shows openness when you can accept some views of people you don’t like in general. You don’t like the EU and post exclusively negative things about it. Even when...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. In this case he is not alone in his opinion.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And the East was no where near the standard of West Germany as regards enviroment, infrastructure etc.. Northern Ireland is already in the EU which East Germany wasn't beforehand.
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