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Could well be using money from sales as mentioned, or owners injecting equity in the form of a donation. Have a read about FFP and SCMP... the Twitter/Facebook interpretations you often see are a little wide of the mark.

SISU's action were condemned by the JR, but if you can sit there and honestly say that the motivations of the council between 2000 and 2008 were with the clubs best interests at heart then you are deluded.

Of course.. all future initatives at the FL have to be created in consideration of one single football club in dispute.

What's the problem? What about all the people that can't afford it, or have work commitments, or children? Sounds like you are worried about the hierarchy of the 'super-fan' being challenged rather than an initiative for fans to see more of their team.

If the meeting was a few weeks ago and it may have been about a return to the Ricoh, does that mean that SISU and ACL have potentially been in discussion for some time about this? In which case at that point neither of the conditions for return had been met. One has since, but the litigation...

I wondered if it was pre or post Wednesdays protest...

When did this 'meeting' take place?

It's impossible to know the success of any meeting (secret or not) unless you know the purpose of it. I've been hoping for weeks that some secret meetings have been going on between SISU and ACL. In their example, doing something in private is going to be infinitely more effective than playing...

This is a ridiculous statement. Why do some people feel the need to criticise attempts for the Trust to engage with the club? This ultimately is the primary reason for their existence to be the middle point between a football club and its fanbase. I'm not a member of the Trust, but if I was I...

If he does meet her, he will be turned on unless he says she's a psycho.

I don't seem to remember Maddison even touching the ball. Finch did look a little lost, especially in the first half, but then he had zero support from his fellow centre backs.. and is still very young. Happier to see a centre back (or maybe he's better as a midfielder) attempting to keep the...

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to quantify your comments, especially as on the surface it appears to shut the door on a return. If you know something... just tell everyone. If there is some good news to follow - don't you think we deserve to know?

I just despair... What is the fucking point of appealing? In the words of Elsa.... Let it go.

I'm not saying they are the only party around, although I would say that unless the stadium is intrinsically linked with the football club, no one is going to buy SISU out at a price they would accept. That said, this fan ownership model is the latest fad being bandied about, that doesn't...

So who's going to pay for everything? The wages, the transfer fees, the day to day running costs, the matchday costs?...how will the club ever control is financial destiny? A fans group won't be able to build or buy a stadium will it? So we'd have to be under ACL's rental deal..they've already...

Even if we could follow their model, the Trust only control 20% of the club. There will still be a majority owner/shareholder, so we'd still have some kind of investment owner.

In your fan run club you'd have us being ripped off by ACL forever, and never ever being able to put ourselves in a position to stand on our own two feet. But at least when we went to the wall, we would have done it honestly.

If SISU left tomorrow and we ended up with a fan ownership model then this is the state and quality of the team we could expect going forward. Then who's fault will it be?

I remember a couple of guys at the Ricoh saying for 80 minutes how crap Baker had been playing in the game. Screaming 'fucks sake Baker' and 'you can't even pass it 5 yards' repeatedly. Baker wasn't even playing.

Don't do it Bobby... everyone will turn on you afterwards.