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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I would say you saying that you have always hated the evil EU would put in you in the class of bigotry, as you are not interested in any debate on the issue and just revert to insulting people when challenged.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well at least I recognised the con well in advance. Maybe living in a country that actually did put itself first at all costs, persecuted a religious minority that it they blamed for the decline of the country, and literally did away with lefties, foreigners and gays, did help me see through...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Count me in on that. Chequers won’t get through in the present form. Any takers? Plus there will be impasse and either an election or secondary vote.. based on facts will be the only way out.
  4. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly. That is what happened. The democratic process was manipulated by dodgy people and 30s style propaganda. Now the facts are coming out it is time for an open and fair democratic vote based on known facts.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    My Newcastle is being brewed in Amsterdam and my Strongbow comes from Belgium ( it has for years - nothing to do with Brexit). So, I shall survive. I can get Gin at the duty free - which may have to come back.
  6. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, there are ifs and buts, but they are not expecting a positive result as best case, just a cushioned disaster. I think there will be a deal. Rees Mogg and co would take a no deal though according to him. If we had remained, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Life would be going on...
  7. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Conspire? A majority thinks Brexit was the wrong decision. That is not a conspiracy.
  8. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you think a no deal, in the unlikely event that it comes to that, is preferable to remain? The economy is doing well, even with uncertainty, and we have low unemployment whilst in the EU. Biggest problem is distribution of wealth and differences in regional prosperity. Nothing to do with the...
  9. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    53% in this poll. Not conclusive. Other polls say a small majority would vote remain, if asked. A small majority think we made the wrong decision.
  10. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I am saying most accept that it will probably happen. Even I come under that category. But, I don’t want it to happen. This is a collection of 34 polls: https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/
  11. M

    Death of the high street

    Have I read correctly? The church is criticising a company for leeching off people and not paying taxes? Do they pay tax on their income? How did the COE amass it’s wealth?
  12. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Theee is a difference between wanting it to happen and accepting that it will happen.
  13. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Did you answer my 7;43 post? I may have missed it because I was watching a film. About a nun and a policeman... long story.
  14. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Other polls suggest a second vote or an election based on any deal or no deal or remain. But you know that.
  15. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What would be your first preference in a referendum in which the options were remaining in the EU, leaving the EU and accepting a deal along the lines Theresa May has set out, or leaving the EU without a deal?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Latest EU voting intention figures show remain ahead of leave - BMG Research
  17. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I stopped posting because I was watching a film with the missus. Brexit: UK would now vote 54-46 to stay in EU, new poll suggests
  18. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    YouGov is one. It says more think that it was wrong to leave. The Independent has other polls. I’ll look later.
  19. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As far as YouGov is concerned, I cannot see a direct question. More think that it was wrong to leave, than say that it was right.
  20. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I am trying to work out if you mean the Euro is too strong because of the Germans, or too weak because of the poorer countries? It is the same as 2002 against the dollar. The poorer countries wanted a strong stable currency to get access to cheap credit to improve their countries. According...
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