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Anyone else not had theirs yet? @Nick thought there was already a thread on this but I couldn't see it so please close this if there is one already.

Has anyone got a link to Keith doing another u turn on renationalisation as alluded to in that interview, I haven't seen it anywhere.

Thats set in stone then if Starmers committed to it, it's not like he'll change his mind.

My names Bond, defaulted Bond......

The problem is you've got that fuck nugget Nick Fuentes on TV in one of the cradles of fossil fuel use telling right wing Christians that oil is infinite and was put on earth by god for us to burn and the rednecks are lapping it up. This is the madness that anyone trying to bring about a more...

Yeah, was just semantics, the tories are fond of the term, I just find it a bit authoritarian.

Point of order, I thought politicians were elected to serve the public?

Thats what happens when people have beliefs that stretch beyond forelock tugging and tax cuts

I know Sharon Graham has been very critical of the party and as you said, wants to reduce funding. I've not heard her dire try having a go at Starmer though she may have.

Not sure what you mean? I've been saying that all along (regarding nationalisation).

So your evidence is something said by a proven liar who this week has changed his mind on another policy and blamed covid. Fair enough if you trust him but your evidence is no more concrete than mine. Do you think the unions still think he'll deliver? And I'd be very happy to be proven wrong...

I've given you my evidence, you don't think it points to the conclusions I've come to, fair enough, but what evidence do you have that he does care about workers rights? He made a lot of big promises the union conference last year but he's changed his mind on issues since then, why can't he do...

Well you can get the evidence about renationalisation from reading his pledge and listening to what he's had to say this week. I've made my mind up about his stance on workers right based onthe last few weeks. Liz Truss says she's going to shred all EU climate legislation. Liz Truss say...

I don't wish he was still leader. And I never mentioned him, I started off asking a simple question, why did Starmer make a pledge about renationisation if he was going to renege on it? I haven't had a satisfactory answer, Starmer himself blamed Covid, Shmmeee said something about Corbyn that...

That was a great goal.

Perhaps if people didn't keep bringing an aging independent from Islington there'd be no need.

You ever been to Croydon?

Again, I would vote for a Labour Party that was more centrist if it had a decent leader who wasn't full of bullshit and actually stood for something. Starmer drew me in, but time after time he's reneged on it until he's lost me.

Don't say that with some of the contributors on this thread, (see heat thread on off topic for details).

You centrists are obsessed with Corbyn. And as I stated, it didn't stop the press painting the party as '70s leftists' anyway. If Starmer is scared of what they'll say about him now, wait until the election draws near.