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I think we are looking at things from different perspectives and we are talking about Rugby football and Football. One is far bigger than the other and they operate differently tbf. I doubt you would see a football club do what WASP have done and moreover since the Wimbledon/MK Dons saga that...

I read it at the time that Lucas was making rumblings about offers bring em on sort of comments more off the cuff than anything as her authority to sell the Ricoh was not hers. SISU did maintain that they wanted the freehold but the council had refused to consider the freehold. So everyone...

I think this is over criticism of SP tbf. The trouble with this attitude is that you seem to think a new guy will fair better given our terrible circumstances? Football has enough littered evidence to suggest even the best of them can't do it and have bad times at clubs and better times at...

That's nice and concise Mat and all those things are true but for one. Were SISU/CCFC offered the same opportunity before the council sought out WASP? Were they offered the same 250 year lease for the same price/conditions?

I expect they will get a boost for the first and maybe one or two following games before it settles into something more like 7/8k. 17k is in fact around half capacity at that so playing in front of a packed Ricoh as Goode says is hardly likely. But good luck to them. I'm not a Rugger fan but...

But the Council/ACL decided in their wisdom to do a deal for the 250 year lease behind SISU's and therefore the communities football club with an out of town Rugby club, not to mention the community already had a Rugby club as well. SISU were not offered first bite of that cherry or even given...

The same players...are you sure?

Noggin I don't disagree. My OP though was about plausibility. If you say there are figures showing it won't work then post them or a link and lets see what they are and who exactly drew up these numbers and if they had any idea of what was to be built and if they had inside knowledge of SISU's...

Actually yes I would have stuck with Boothroyd yes. We keep changing managers like the weather. Boothroyd had good form at our level and I'm glad you mentioned him because that's a classic example. SISU have and always will be the major problem. They get into a situation where they need another...

Andy Thorn was always a 'quick fix' gamble was he not that merely suited the moment and out pouring of the fans to give him a go?

You are not addressing the question other than the usual "they won't build" sound bite. Why do you think they won't Ashdown based on facts not supposition and theory. Ther are many ways to skin a cat and equally to finance a stadium. Is it plausible?

The only way you could change things in the short term is by endangering the long term Quick fixes do not work out well.

Fergie was a game away from being fired at UTD. A terrible beginning but they let it ride and gave him some time during a period when managers were not such throw away commodities! The rest is history.

Just how plausible is it? When I visit the Ricoh as yesterday I walk around to the entry turnstile and think to myself wow, how did we lose this asset? It's been a shambles. But there may be ways forward. Personally I'd like the stadium used for many sports including Speedway even. That was...

I don't doubt the people calling for SP's head are the same ones that would have fired Allardyce and Pardew a few weeks back? Some of you walk around with grey clouds over your heads permanently and the glass half empty.

Grendel this is not like you? That list has the likes of Sam Allardyce and many others who have careers elsewhere these days or gave up football management eons ago! George Graham?!!! In fact - which one do you have in mind?

I can't believe the talk for changing the manager yet again. SP has been having a bad run since Reda's red card and the fall out issues but now sorted we have improved, a win away and a draw against a mean defence. It's a positive start to improving. We are 'breeding' the youngster's into the...

Fleck has a slow start and then comes into games in the second half which seems to accompany the teams improvement. His movement off the ball is good, but he needs help around him to get the best from him.

Too soon to answer really. I would expect us to still pick it up and flirt with the top six. If not then the manager will have to carry the blame I fear.

You need to remember where we are and who we are at the moment in order to get a proper perspective. League 1 with academy and loan players in the side. Today was woeful from the off but as the game went on we improved and stole the second half and should have won it. Walsall had no bite in...