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  1. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I see your point. My take is that if we remove no-deal then we at least narrow down the possible outcomes.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you think his no-deal condition is unreasonable? Let’s be honest our government aren’t capable of implementing it.
  3. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    More shit and drivel. Captain Dart will be talking it up as the greatest speech of the 21st Century.
  4. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You don’t half talk some shite. Gove was the worst education secretary in history, and his speech was merely a load of bullshit pulled off the front pages of The Sun that his mate Murdoch sent him. Like the Tories in general, no plan, no strategy, nothing to offer the country other than ‘don’t...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Tell them about this thread... we can take over the negotiations instead.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    On the contrary actually, Labour will lose more seats if they back a 2nd referendum due to the geographical nature of Labour voters and their remain/leave preferences. That's why their stance has been like it is. Their northern strongholds are at risk as they ALL voted leave, and backing a 2nd...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’ll assume your May comment on the NHS is tongue in cheek?! Double digit lead is simply nonsense. According to the polling you refer to he clawed back a 20% deficit. And you think he couldn’t do something even half the size of that from an even keel if we had another GE? The country is torn...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Does that make you Dan Hodges?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Probably correct - but which ‘side’ is going to address the massive under investment in the NHS, Education, Welfare etc?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The centrists IMO don’t want to be reached out to. The Labour manifesto was the best thing to come out of the party for 15 years, and they sadly won’t subscribe to it. It’s not in keeping with the Blair’s neo-liberal way. Also worth pointing out that across Europe every centre-left/centrist...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I respectfully disagree - 2017 suggests that transformative policies are popular because it represent change with the London centric funding culture of the last 40 years.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If Labour had a centre left leader in 2017, then we would have a Tory majority government now. The era of centrist Blairite leaders for Labour is over. Blair put pay to that by being Thatchers greatest creation. Umunna and that ilk represent smooth taking bullshitters in the game for their own...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Still won and opened the door to 18 years of Tory rule... unless you’re saying you wish she lost it...
  14. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    On the polls - every polling organisation has Labour ahead or level except You Gov (created and sponsored by the Tories) which is where that poll came from. I believe that in a GE - Labour would probably be the largest party but not enough for a majority. That would probably see a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Party interests before country...
  16. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think Thatcher tabled a number of no confidence motions in Labour government before she got one to stick.
  17. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah she probably will this time. But these motions can be raised again... I imagine we may see another one after she comes back 3 days later like a shit Jesus.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The BBC should be ashamed at peddling this nonsense.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Any potential 2nd referendum would have more credibility if the supposed cheating was proven in court and people were charged and/or sentenced. You would also have to investigate any claims of wrongdoing on both sides of the referendum. If claims can't be substantiated - it takes away from that...
  20. Ian1779

    ...increase in migrants across the Channel.

    Our reliance on immigration it's integrated with the fact that we need teachers, nurses, doctors to keep our systems running. Without them we are fucked. Infrastructure is at the heart of most of our countries issues,there is hardly any investment in it. Where there is investment it is not...
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