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  1. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You keep telling yourself that myth...
  2. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    May No.1 priority is her party. She won't take no deal off the table as that is her route out with her party intact. She wants Corbyn to come out for Remain. This is now her strategy - to highlight the party that will and will not respect the result. May and Corbyn both know that they have to...
  3. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    May is the one that won’t budge - yet Corbyn gets the flak. From a media perspective this couldn’t play out any better for them if they tried... and you’ve bought the narrative. Again, comes back to the perception of leadership. May supposedly is perceived as a strong leader for making no...
  4. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bloody foreigners coming over here, staining our passports red... I just want my bananas from Kent before the foreigners eat them all...
  5. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So you wheeled that catchphrase straight out of the Mike Gapes playbook then? He has asked for her to drop no-deal - she doesn’t want to as she wants to use it as a threat to push through her crap deal. You know all of this, but instead you rinse and repeat the diatribe peddled about from those...
  6. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’ve gone full Dan Hodges.
  7. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So To appease her party... above what is right for the country. Politicising at its very finest. In fact the whole reason we had a referendum was because of trying to save their own party. Now we have this mess. Of course he wants a GE, do you think people can survive another 4 years of Tory...
  8. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t disagree with you - I’m not for a PV/2nd ref at all. We should really honour what was voted for. I fundamentally disagree with the policy agreed at conference, and I think Corbyn will do everything he can to avoid getting to the point of supporting it. We all know it’s electoral suicide.
  9. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But Captain Conservative has got his fresh Tory propaganda to pedal.....
  10. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    May's very strategy is completely politicised. She is putting conservation of the Tories above everything else, including what she actually wants.
  11. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I find it laughable that a man that spent 5 years playing party politics in a coalition (remember swapping welfare sanctions for a carrier bag charge!) has the cheek to call someone else out on it. The Lib Dems abstaining on any future votes will have no impact on Labour as a party, and you are...
  12. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We have a media that holds the opposition and its leader to account, but incapable of doing the same to the party in power. People like Cameron and Blair somehow managed to con people into thinking that they were leaders. What a fucking joke.
  13. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This is her plan. Then all she has to do is say 'we are the Party that respects the will of the people'. He's equally hoping she will do the same.
  14. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Grendel and Captain Dart do.
  15. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bit like yours then.
  16. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It very much is down to what you perceive as leadership. Some people see leadership as fist shaking, soundbites and fancy suits. Some people see leadership as having a vision of how you will make the country a better place. Take the election, Labour's manifesto was on how to improve the...
  17. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You failed to mention the other poll yesterday that put Labour ahead by 2 points. In fact every pollster other than Tory You Gov has Labour level or ahead... makes you wonder about the You Gov agenda.
  18. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A theory: Previously we had no-deal, May's deal and no Brexit on the table. If Corbyn (and the SNP) want to remove no-deal it leaves her deal or no Brexit. Deep down both May and Corbyn know that no Brexit is electoral suicide, she is desperate for him to come out and back it, and likewise the...
  19. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    She could well be bullshitting, or suggesting discussion has taken place when simply its a call to request their presence.
  20. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Do you not think it’s odd that she conversed with the ones that all want a 2nd Ref/Peoples Vote. Yet the one who in reality wants to see Brexit through has not engaged with her?
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