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I totally understand your caution. But this isn’t that Labour Party.

Yes they are. And even if they only manage to implement a fraction of them - your life will be better than under this or any Tory government.

Don’t forget Karen Bradley the NI Secretary who failed to have even a rudimentary grasp of NI and it’s politics or history.

Not nearly as scary as Javid, Gove and Johnson.

But it isn’t... what is unachievable is the current government having any real desire to make the lives of the people it governs better. Anything can be done if the will is there to do it.

With respect, you have already declared that Corbyn can’t pay for everything - didn’t exactly open the discussion civilly with that declaration. I think that most of what he has suggested can be funded, simply by not wasting money in the way we do currently. HS2 is a clear example of this. Even...

Why not - we won’t need them in our post Brexit Utopia.

You don’t know what the Tories offer, because they don’t offer anything. They are that arrogant and complacent that they are now targeting their core vote through social care, dementia tax and now raising the pension age.

HS2 and Trident would cover that nicely.

Have you forgotten - the Tories don’t have to justify how they spend or cost anything, only Labour.

Better costed than the Tory one Also, the one cost you did release - someone decided you can feed all primary school children on 5.7p each.

At least you’ll have the pleasure of finally finding that thing in common.

There’s always plenty of money to blow people up, bribe minority parties to hold together governments, and an extortionate amount to prepare for a no-deal disaster because they’ve just pissed around for 3 years. But you get yourself worked up about spending some good money.

Can’t believe anyone would seriously vote for the nasty bastards.

I agree with this point - this is what I want to hear as a coherent argument from the side of remain. I’ve always said that Labour had to go to their leavers and say to them if they changed their minds, how it would make changes to their lives so they knew things would be different.

The status quo IS the problem. It’s been shit for so many people for what? 40 years now? It’s far easier to vote for something perceived as ‘radical’ when the carrying on as normal means you have nothing to aspire to. This is my point about the extreme remain position - it’s made no effort in 3...

You only have to spend 2 minutes looking through social media at the FBPE crew especially to see people like this. Even some of the most ardent remain politicians have failed to talk about how we would pursue reform should we stay - the conversation ends at Revoke Article 50. If these...

Labour tried the soft Brexit line at least. The Lib Dems abstained on everything... apart from hanging out of the arse of the Tories again.

But since then we now have 2 entrenched positions of Ultra Hard Brexit and Ultra Remain. Both in my opinion are culpable for this shit storm we have now. Those that won’t accept any form of Brexit except nosediving off a cliff, and those that won’t acknowledge that the EU needs to reform at all...

I think we’re all agreed she’s the worst.