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  1. duffer

    Higgs v SISU Court Document

    In what way did they do that, sorry?
  2. duffer

    Higgs v SISU Court Document

    You do realise this quote is from the SISU side don't you? And that they actually lost a significant part of their case too. Nil-all, as the judge said. I'd read the court transcript to get the full view. In any case, I suspect both sides play stupid PR games on message boards. I always...
  3. duffer

    Charity statement on court case

    It's easy to say the action is 'ill-advised' in retrospect isn't it, but that doesn't make it true. Things end up in court because both sides think they've got a case - if one side or the other thinks they haven't, they settle well before risking all that money. I don't exactly see the Higgs...
  4. duffer

    Shock result

    Must confess that after the stuff about the six-weeks exclusivity came out, I thought it was pretty much nailed on for Higgs. What was surprising was how far down the track the judge was prepared to go in digging up stuff from August and beyond. I'm also surprised at how much of an easy ride...
  5. duffer

    Charity statement on court case

    They'll offer the QC a third of the bill and when he doesn't take it, walk away. ;)
  6. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Then I don't think you've understood the law. Councils are allowed to invest and hold shares, and are allowed to support that investment.
  7. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    You're not throwing more money in, you're making sure a third-party can't undermine the value of something that you own 50% by securing it against their threat. In actuality if ACL survive and continue to pay off the mortgage at the current deal, the council make money. And they still have...
  8. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Not for me. Without the charity putting in £6.5m, the Ricoh doesn't get built. This wasn't an investment in the hope of a return, it was a bail out when the club had absolutely no other hope of survival. Unless the club buy that share back at something like that price, then basically they've...
  9. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Well, there's all the money they put in to enable the build. Initially around £30m, the £10m grant and £20m loan. (The latter became the mortgage, in effect). It's fronting up that cash that gave them the share in ACL. And then the actual value of ACL. Higgs put their half at £5m - £7m...
  10. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    I'd have thought so, unless they've read it that the judge really did think that both sides were as bad as each other and they were wasting their time asking for costs. But then you're in court - what's one more question, 'We would like to seek costs'.
  11. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Their investment in ACL, which is more than a business simply holding a lease.
  12. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    But Higgs did take them to court. In most cases like this I think the judge would have awarded costs to SISU, they were forced to offer at least a defence (though not a counter-claim) and that costs money. I'm surprised that SISU haven't asked for costs. Both sides must have costs running...
  13. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    That is a surprise. Makes you wonder how the HoT was worded then - because it seems clear that the deal wasn't completed within the six week exclusivity period. Regardless, you've got to trust the judge to make the right decision in law, and I think he's probably right in saying that by August...
  14. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Incidentally, what is the point of posting on a thread to say "wot a borin thread"?
  15. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Hey, I had to give up my share too (or more technically, the missus's share which I'm claiming half ownership of!). I wouldn't begrudge that if it had gone to owners who at least behaved in a way approaching honorable. In fact, even 'reasonable' would've have done. Who would've guessed that...
  16. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    So it seemed you honestly believe the rent strike was started without SISU's approval. Do you think it was continued without SISU's approval, up to and including the point at which it took the club into court for debt orders and Administration?
  17. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Ah - apologies OSB, and thank you for the correction. In fairness, I should have quoted Fisher... http://joinmust.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-79099.html (originally from the CET) (Fisher) said Arvo Master Fund Ltd is part of Mayfair-based Sisu, and is “Sisu’s hedge fund” investing...
  18. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    I'm kind of amazed that anyone would think that SISU didn't support the idea of the rent strike. Seppala in here own words... http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-owner-joy-6096912 "We didn’t want to distress ACL, but the club couldn’t afford to pay the rent"...
  19. duffer

    Higgs vs CCFC Court Row

    Are you trying kid yourself that SISU that didn't agree to the rent strike. Seriously?
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