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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Precisely, the Brexit vote was a manifestation of people who are dissatisfied with the political establishment, people who had felt 'left behind'. Similar reasons why American voters turned to Trump. I had a v bad feeling about Brexit when my mum called me at uni, we got talking about the...
  2. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Want to know what really does look weak? A Government that has lost the confidence of Parliament and cannot pass its Brexit deal. Why do Brexiteers frame the referendum as the end of the matter? It was just the start of things. I did an essay in 2015 at uni, stating why Britain should stay in...
  3. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It's in everyone's interest to get a free trade deal, but that's not on a table until Brexit is finalised. But, here's a question for you: Would you accept a free trade deal with the EU where you'd have to adhere to their rules and regulations, but we have no influence over what those rules...
  4. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    2.5% drop in GDP is huge. Anything more than a 5% drop in GDP is an economic catastrophe.
  5. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The likelihood of a no-deal Brexit is a real possibility. The deal isn’t passing in Parliament, and a general election or a change in PM doesn’t change the Brexit deadline. It is possible that the government could revoke its triggering of Article 50 until the result of a new referendum OR a new...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, it's not a 'big if'. The Government has taken the 'best case' and 'worse case' scenarios, including May's own plan, and has still concluded that Brexit will be bad for the economy. This isn't a guess of what will happen, it's a calculation, know the difference. Brexit will make UK worse...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The first aspect is nonsense because my point isn’t that the 1975 is binding — nothing can bind parliament, even the EU. The irony of you saying there was no ‘what Europe are you voting for’ is that right now, the public hasn’t decided ‘what Brexit are you voting for’. As was the concept of...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The 1975 referendum was also a ‘people’s vote,’ if the argument is referendums should be binding in posterity, then the 2016 referendum shouldn’t have happened. But, of course you don’t believe that. MPs are elected by ‘the people’ and they’ve judged that this deal is not good for the national...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Tariffs work both ways, y’know? A trade war is good for no one as barriers to free trade generally isn’t good for the economy. Our economy relies on the City of London’s financial district, and you bet EU financial services will relocate to Frankfurt if Brexit does get finalised. Also, pursuing...
  10. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How would a second referendum, ‘people’s vote’ be a betrayal of democracy? A lot of people don’t understand the situation we’re in as a country. May’s Brexit deal is going to get smashed in Parliament, as you’d think most of the 117 Tory MPs who had ‘no confidence’ in May will vote against it...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Political parties all have factions within them, a change in party systems will not change that. Our parliamentary system offers more stability than its European counterparts that use more proportional systems. Take Germany, it’s had to have enter yet another grand coalition because neither...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    With a margin of 1.8%, the result of the first referendum wasn’t conclusive. The nature of what Brexit would be wasnt defined in the election. Therefore, the issue of Brexit is very much still up for debate. If the government can’t get its deal through Parliament, it’s in a position where it...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You'd be surprised how quickly people forget about things pretty quickly in politics. I'm not a Tory so I'm not stating her as a preference per se, but off the top of my head, she is the only high-profile Tory to come out in support of a second referendum. Since Day 1 after the referendum, I've...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’d like to see a Brexit candidate get the nod. Why? For too long they’ve had the privilege of making claim after claim to the public without any accountability. They won a referendum making claims they weren’t even committed too (see Farage’s comments after the result on the £350m NHS). Without...
  15. Mucca Mad Boys

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This is going to have to settle this at the ballot box again, whether it be via general election or another referendum, or both. From day one, Brexit was a bad idea. Poorly defined in the referendum, the Government cannot uphold the promises of the Leave campaign and neither side will walk away...
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    Bakayoko at Walsall

    Yeah, but had we taken our chances it wouldn’t have mattered if Burge made the mistake. We also conceded a penalty to lose the game. Pinning it on ‘no one else,’ just Burge is just plain stupid. The game should’ve been finished long before that mistake. Even so, the Walsall result was just one...
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    Match Thread Walsall vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 8th Dec

    There’s a special place for people who bet against their own team, doesn’t matter if it’s virtual currency.
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    Match Thread Walsall vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 8th Dec

    I’ve never made any of those claims. I did say we had one of the best defences when it was true and we’d conceded the 5th or 6th least amount of goals. This has changed somewhat. This team is naive, which is forgivable since it’s the 3rd youngest team in the league. They’ll make mistakes and...
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    Match Thread Walsall vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 8th Dec

    We missed 2 clear cut chances, you cannot pin this loss on Burge at all. We score either chance, we win the game, simple as that. The problem isn’t Burge’s mistake, it’s killing off games when we’re creating chances from a winning position. Too many clear cut chances have been missed this...
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    Match Thread Walsall vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 8th Dec

    *laughs sadistically* — sums up my reaction. The draw was a kick in the bollocks, to lose it in the 90th is just a piss take. Was surprised we went for 4-3-3, can kind of see how it fits, but never thought Robins would go for it. What are people’s thoughts on how we played?
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