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Didn't we go down this road before and it was said it was near impossible to identify who the investors in the funds were? That said if more coverage was gained in the likes of the FT that could lead to questions being asked of SISU.

So that could be an incentive for SISU to stick around? If they were to leave they would have to right off the investment and then questions might be asked. Wonder if there are any rules about what you can invest in, I know all investment is a risk but could SISU face any kind of action for...

I don't mean written off at our end so it's not owed by the club anymore (even tho Fisher did state around 18 months ago that every penny put in by SISU had been converted to equity!). I meant do they decrease the value in the pension pot so that over time its not as noticable if it all goes...

Of course if they could buy it at such a knockdown price that the profit on selling it at market value covered their investment then that is a sensible approach but if it doesn't then they need to look at other options. The mortgage would come into play as if they sold they would need to repay...

It's not really if it matters or not more that you can't go back in time and change it so you really need to just draw a line under things and look at what is happening at the present time.

Fair point but equally PWKH told us, and I have no reason to disbelieve him, that other offers were on the table and the club picked the £1.2m flat rate. I can only guess this was down to them thinking we would be back in the prem and the deal would work to their advantage. If that had happened...

Not yet mate.

I'd be interested to know if the amount they've invested still sits happily on the balance sheet. Could explain their reluctance to let go of CCFC as that would be the point at which they'd have to write that money off? Is that how it works or have the been slowly writing it off over time?

At the moment all profit goes into overpayments on the debt or improvements. I believe what you're referring to is a share of the profits goes to the council if the profit goes above £3.25m, a payment in addition to the lease payment. Not sure if that only applies after all the debt has been...

So lets's say the Ricoh is work £50m and CCFC take a £35m mortgage. If the ground was sold that mortgage would have to be repaid would it not? So the net amount would be £15m, not enough to cover SISU's investment. However if they'd used the £35 to repay the 'debt' they would walk away without...

Depends really, do you know how each individual company your pension fund is investing in is doing? If it was one person investing £20m then they would be keeping an eye on what is going on, if it's a small part of a larger pension fund it's a lot easier to hide. How does the money 'owed' to...

I predict we will score in the 35th and 61st minutes just to bugger everything up!

I have always said I am open to having my opinion changed. When this situation first started I was totally behind SISU when they placed all the blame on the council but as more evidence has come out I have changed that opinion. If SISU can provide evidence that stands up to scrutiny that they...

As an example (all made up figures but gives an idea). Let's say in real terms they have put in £30m. Now say they get the Ricoh for £5m. Lets say they can obtain a mortgage on the Ricoh of £35m. The club takes out the mortgage, proceeds go to SISU, AVRO etc as they are 'owed' money. SISU stop...

If it was identified by SISU as something that needed doing they should have been shouting it from the rooftops at that point as they would have had backing from the fans. Even now they aren't claiming they've been trying to sort this from day one and ACL have always refused. I'm not sure we...

So despite my best intentions of not going to Arsenal it seems my family have been conspiring against me and this morning I was presented with 2 tickets as a birthday present. Wife's plan was a nice weekend in London but she's just text me to say she has to work a double shift so it looks...

Exactly, imagine if on day one RR had stated we need to sort out the rent it is far too high and unsustainable. I would suggest this would have had the backing of the vast majority of supporters. Of course if they had purchased Higgs 50% share of ACL on day one they would have been in a very...

If the Ricoh makes money and the football club doesn't isn't the more likley option that they sell the club and retain ownership of the Ricoh charging the club a large rent to play there?

It's not an I hate SISU hat at all. How have you drawn the conclusion that their aim is to get the Ricoh and sell us on? There is no evidence to support that. The only evidence we have regarding their plans is Joy's interview in the CT where she stated her primary aim was to recover her...

I know, so we could have continued to rent it or we could have exercised the buy back clause included in the deal in case the Arena project hit problems. We did neither. It is misleading to claim the club were forced to move to the Ricoh at all let alone that they were forced to sign the rental...