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I don't think Bury did nullify us though. They were certainly better second half, but I still think we controlled much of the game. I'm also not sure what system he could've changed to, possibly through his own fault, we have no pace and therefore can't play with much width. He brought Ball on...

Yeah I accept he's being played out of position, but he frequently fails to get a football under control, it's simple stuff.

Well Thorn is being heavily criticised and blamed for the defeat..this was, without question, the turning point in the game. As for the substitutes, McSheffrey very nearly scored through some brilliant individual play, so hard to say he made the wrong changes. As for Ball, he wanted a target man...

How can you say that, Hussey hit the post in the second from his forward run, and Brown was getting forward plenty in the second half, so I can't see how you drew that conclusion? The players definitely relaxed second half, and there didn't seem to be the same urgency second half. However...

You asked me to 'show you' how Thorn is improving us and other various things, which, perhaps not overtly, but does suggest that you thought I'd said Thorn was the man for the job..which I haven't said. I'm not suggesting that he publicly hold the players responsible, the manager is there to...

It is difficult to judge, but I don't think he looks great, certainly isn't going to set the world alight.

I didn't insult your intelligence, only your eyesight and judgement. Baker scored a good goal, and in the first half played well, but so did the rest of the side.

He is culpable when he tells the team to sit back at 2-0 and see the game out, and then drawing the game 2-2. But this is not what happened, their goals came from our players individual errors, and I don't see how Thorn can account for Richard Wood stupidly barging someone over in the box, from...

I've not suggested at any point I think Thorn is a great manager, or even an adequate manager, so please read my argument before responding. My point is that today I don't see what he could've done differently, and to not hold the players responsible today is ridiculous!

Apart from two dismal efforts he blazed over the bar and a good chance he sliced wide in the second half. Jennings was our best player today, by an absolute mile, I'm amazed you didn't see this! I'd also add that I don't know what Kilbane does, has been poor in all three games, and surely as...

It's like people think Thorn just said 'chill out lads, games won' at half time.

First of all, he is not manager of a sales team trying to meet a target, and secondly that first half performance was not far from perfect today. HOW is Thorn meant to account for that second half performance, individual player errors, Wood stupidly and unnecessarily gifting them a penalty, and...

Yeah because at 2-2, this was definitely the turning point...

Who do we have that could've played right back instead?

Well if you were watching, Ball was coming on before they got the second goal anyway to replace Cody, who looked shattered and was ineffective in the second half. McSheffrey was brought on as a reaction to their second goal (aside from Baker's goal, he was incredibly wasteful), and he almost got...

That's just not true, at some point the players do have to take responsibility.