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As i say, i don't know enough about that to comment, but i don't accept that the same thing would automatically happen here.

Because we are not Saltzburg, we are not Leipzig. I don't know any fans of either of those clubs to ask how they feel about their current situation so it's difficult to judge to what extent they feel they have lost their identity anyway.

Alright enough now, don't labour the point. We all know that success on the pitch isn't the only thing that matters but its massively lazy to assume that a takeover by a big commercial entity would only deliver success at the expense of everything else that makes City city. Besides which it's...

Precisely this ^ Besides which it's really lazy to suggest that a big investment / takeover automatically means the destruction of a clubs identity and heritage. Football is a business now and thats not going to change anytime soon but clubs as a community haven't totally disappeared as a...

But why would he want to? Where is the advantage to him?

No its not okay but my point is there is no sense getting your hair off about it as whoever comes in (if indeed there is anyone at all) will have a similar agenda. Companies and rich investors don't buy football clubs for the sake of it.

ummmm..........hate to break it to you but thats kind of how football works................ every single league club is beholden to Sky already regardless of ownership............

We really wouldn't. Where we find ourselves now is a massive embarrassment. Irrelevant however as there is no way its Red Bull! :D

As Hull have proved, its not that easy to change a teams name and badge anyway. So even if Red Bull did come in it wouldn't necessarily mean a big rebranding. It's still not Red Bull though

More so than in English lower leagues. There is a close synergy in German football between local clubs and businesses based in the same areas so sponsorship deals can be substantial even outside of the top flight.

They did but the model is different in Europe. There is no money in English football outside the Prem. Even if they did want to start lower down and build up there are plenty of league one/two clubs with less baggage than us. The stadium / training ground issues etc surely make us very unpalatable.

I just can't see it being Red Bull. With the resources they have why would they not look at teams higher up the tree than us if they were wanting to get involved in English Football?

Dion? its Dion isn't it :)

It's not just straight cash though. Property deals involving local Councils are often tied up with infrastructure and service improvements as well. If you have a target to build so many houses, so many community facilities, make road improvements etc etc you can often get developers to pay for...

Well in fairness would you give Timmy any more cash than you had to ?

Depends how much money is in the offing.........

Still there, not made a single appearance for them this season. Odd that he hasn't gone out on loan.

Getting ahead of ourselves. We have no real evidence that a takeover is in process.......... even if it is we don't know that it will actually happen............. or indeed any idea who the potential buyer might be. So getting shirty over changing of the clubs name or colours at this stage seems...

Tata have no interested in investing in anything outside of their core business. I think the Ricoh may well be rebranded as the Jaguar and/or Land Rover Arena when the naming rights come up again but that will be all.

They won't do it, that's the point, but you must realise we are in a stalemate situation. It will only change if someone offers an olive branch. Any talk of new owners coming in to extricate us from the mire is just wishful thinking.