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Yeah, traditionally that type of work was always piece work. I remember lots of “Vicky” types from the council estate I lived on as a kid used to go potato picking and would get paid by the weight they picked not the hours they worked, students used to do it a lot years ago too.

Maybe it isn’t strange at all ;)

I had a mate in the army who used to say the same. His sergeant was a Jamaican (apparently Jamaicans have sizeable numbers in the British forces and thats where the real story of the Jamaican bobsled team comes from) who joined straight from school and according to my friend was the most capable...

I don’t agree myself with the conditions many foreign workers (seasonal workers especially) are expected to live in. Difference between me and grendull is I feel the same about British workers. Hence I don’t call a woman who left school at 16, a mother by the time she was 17 and working in the...

I’ve worked for a couple of companies that employ graduates to fast track into management and many of them were capable human beings, some were clearly just good at exams. But at the other end of the scale I worked with people who didn’t do well in education and were having good careers having...

Fair enough. Not sure why Grendull liked your post though as he was the one leading the charge against labours plans on improving the minimum wage, improving workers rights and addressing the inequality gap.

Almost as much sense as saying that they’re clever because they’re Tories. Diane Abbot had an at least equal education to Patel, also doesn’t have a grasp for numbers like Patel but you’ve been gloating that she’s stupid for years. What makes Abbot thick and Patel not?

The funniest thing about the people who accuse other of promoting something close to slave labour are also the ones who were critical of labours plans to hike the minimum wage at the last election as unsustainable, keep quiet about the removal of the £20 uplift to working families, keep quiet...

He’s accusing Angela Raynor of being scum by calling her Vicky, a clear reference to the fictional character Vicky Pollard while also accusing you of labelling the “underclass” as “scum”. Although you suggested no such thing.

Of course you’re going to leave this. Just one point though. Who sets the minimum wage? Not the EU or immigrants. The British government. Foreign labour is only cheap because our sovereign government chooses to keep it that way.

Gotcha. That must be why reversing elements of brexit are apparently the answer.

So are you saying that there isn’t a labour shortage?

The BBC struggles to even mention brexit and these issues in the same breath. We’re 100,000 HGV drivers short and we’re issuing visas for less than a tenth of that, if they come and the shortage is driving wages up. It’s also about more than petrol.

They (amongst others) reported a warning directly from BP that they had closed some petrol stations due to driver shortages. That’s a matter of fact not opinion. Where’s the lie? Plebs? I only know 2 people personally who panicked brought petrol, both leavers. So maybe you are right on your...

There’s also reports that the drivers and seasonal workers aren’t going to come in the numbers required. Simply because they will no longer have the protection of EU rights unlike before. Apparently the drivers can earn just as much money in the EU, have better working conditions and have more...

I did see claims that the BBC deliberately triggered the panic buying and remainers were going from station to station deliberately to make the queues look worse.

Again. Liquid smoke. Henderson’s Relish instead of Worcester sauce is another good one, basically the same but vegan.

Get some liquid smoke. Can help loads adding flavour.

Pfft. Details.

From his point of view and indeed the turkey industries point of view it’s already too late to save Xmas and the government needs to act now to save next year’s Xmas. Staggering that they were downsizing production commitments as early as March this year because of government inactivity. My fear...