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It was terrific, play well in training, best strikers in the world, PL teams wish they had players as skilful as ours.

And when they get to the invisible line they usually pass sideways or backwards!

That was the Thorn argument, we might as well keep him as nobody could do better with the players he had. That worked out well.

Think this is a big part of it. He seems to fall out with a lot of players. We've had players leave only weeks after signing, that's not right and it doesn't happen at other clubs. You can look at the bomb squad and the Baker situation - he might have got the outcome he wanted but handed both...

This years squad's better though. We don't need Wilson, Baker, Moussa, Murphy etc with the great replacement we've brought in.

So why aren't they doing it? Either the players aren't good enough - SP signed them; the players aren't doing what they are told - discipline problem SP can't sole; it's what they are told to do - SP's fault or they can't be bother - SP can't motivate them. I can't see a cause where the blame...

It would be vey interesting how the formula for that option worked. It was generally accepted to be around £10m, PWKH confirmed that was about right on here. Given that Wasps have paid Higgs £2.7m for the same 50% it would seem the formula was heavily weighted in Higgs favour.

Probably not but we should not keep having games with zero shots on target.

Unless there's something we don't know about (e.g.: Waggot picking the team, budget not what we think or something similar) then I think he has to go. I'm not a fan of keep changing manager but we're getting worse. It's like the Thorn relegation season all over again, we seem to be sleepwalking...

Bet Geoff's going to get some cheerful phone calls.

I might have to change my stance of there being enough teams in this division worse than is that we won't go down.

How many have to get sent off before the ref puts us out of our misery and abandons the game?

Gets better and better. Someone needs to ask SP how he thinks we are doing considering at the start of the season he said we should be in the play offs.

Why not change it? Send a message to the players and the fans that he's not going to put up with rubbish.

Think you're missing my point. What I'm saying is we just don't know how one option compares to the other as we don't have detailed financials to base our decisions off. Same applies for land prices, Ricoh is approx 8 acres without the Jag Hall, there's a 12 acres site in Nuneaton being...

What a surprise, Maddison goes down and we don't get a pen.

That's exactly the point though, we don't know the figures. People keep saying £40m but that's just as made up as any other figure. The £1m figure is to illustrate the point - we just don't know which is the better option. If SISU have any sense they will now be working with someone who knows...

John Beech if you're thinking of the same guy I am.

It's the same on twitter, even people who don't go to games are losing interest.

Cracking start :facepalm: