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  1. chiefdave

    Wasps breach agreement with bondholders

    They didn't CCC sold their 50% of ACL to Wasps, Higgs sold their 50% of ACL to Wasps and CCC sold a 200 (or probably about 210 given its back up to 250) year lease extension for £1m. In what I imagine will be the focus of a future thrilling JR the sale of the lease extension was agreed in the...
  2. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    This is one I found interesting. Was always fun to ask leave voters which particular EU laws they were opposed to and see what response you got. And of course there's the Norway thing. Norway aren't part of the EU and were held up as a good way forward to us yet their countries law adopts...
  3. chiefdave

    Wasps breach agreement with bondholders

    The valuation of £48.5m has never made much sense to me. Appreciate it is the value of the lease not of ACL but given the price Wasps paid for ACL and the fact adding 200 years to the lease was only worth £1m (and the original lease was something like £24m) its never sat right. I can't see how...
  4. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    There was a thing on the radio today saying a poll in the US had shown 42% of people intending to vote for Trump believe he will start a nuclear war! Why the hell are they voting for him then???
  5. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    The answer to all three is lots! Problem is its not that straightforward. That figure is just what we pay in - what we take out. It doesn't account for any economic impact of being members of the EU. That's where the real debate should have been.
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    Wasps breach agreement with bondholders

    They should have to use a different valuer, that would be interesting.
  7. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    They're the same figures but they've done some rounding up and also included the aid we give via the EU however if we weren't in the EU we'd still give that aid, just directly not via the EU so I'm not sure you can really include that in the calculation.
  8. chiefdave

    IS IT APRIL THE FIRST?

    BBC are getting shit now, probably from Daily Mail readers, for putting a poppy on the Cookie Monster. The RBL said they weren't fussed about it but apparently that's not good enough.
  9. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    What figures have you got then? Mine are from HM Treasury: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf
  10. chiefdave

    Match Thread Wycombe v Coventry Match Thread - Wednesday 9th Nov

    Wasn't it just West Ham that decided to do that. Presumably because it would be expensive to use their stadium. Obviously the same for us but we're not a big important PL team who can do whatever we like.
  11. chiefdave

    Wasps breach agreement with bondholders

    I'm sure they'd be a little annoyed if they found the promised security wasn't in place and the bonds had gone into default.
  12. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    Again thats not what is being said but surely, as a generalisation, its easier for people to know what is meant but things staying exactly as they are versus taking a leap into the unknown. I'm sure there's people who voted remain who had the most out there ideas of what would happen if they...
  13. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    According to the Treasury are gross contribution is £17.8bn (£342m a week). However since 1984 we've paid less than the 1% of GDP everyone else pays. We get a rebate which is currently £4.9bn. So that's £12.9bn (£248m a week). But we don't actually pay the money and then get the rebate we pay...
  14. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    Voting remain was voting for things to stay the same. I think most people can cope with working out what that means. Voting leave was a leap into the unknown. We had, and still don't have, any idea what exit agreement the UK will make with the EU, we don't know what agreement the UK will make...
  15. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    Well as voting remain meant things staying the same it wasn't too hard to work out.
  16. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    Except I never made that statement. This thread has numerous posts stating that those who voted leave knew exactly what brexit meant and exactly what they were and won't voting for.
  17. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    Right so your assertion is that nobody who say constant reference to £350m a week to the NHS if we leave voted believing the NHS would get the money being promised?
  18. chiefdave

    Wasps breach agreement with bondholders

    Before this descends in to the usual circular argument this is the relevant bit from the bonds And from the accounts On the face of it he does seem to have a point as what is in the accounts isn't an independent appraisal. I assume there's an obvious answer though as I can't imagine they've...
  19. chiefdave

    Brexit/SISU

    Didn't say that, I said it was very different to £350m. And is £136m a week going to the NHS as they were saying the whole £350m a week was. The war comment was pretty ridiculous, although there are those who will argue that the EU has prevented further conflict within Europe. As for the rest...
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