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Intersting watching the videos on twitter. Seems to be a lot of self policing going on, lots of videos of Cologne fans trying to start trouble and other Cologne fans stopping them rather than joining in and the whole thing kicking off.

That vaguely rings a bell. Opening of the new east stand?

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But we would still have to adhere to the likes of the council of Europe, ECHR etc of which we are still a member and those are the bodies creating the issues people complain about like not being able to deport people. Leaving the EU and ignoring Juncker won't change that.

And what manpower is going round locating these people, carrying out those checks and putting them in the detention centre which presumably somebody will need to finance and build? What happens at the end of the weekend, remember we can't deport them as the non-EU regulations which previously...

I agree with some of what he said and I disagree with other parts. I don't share your view that the EU is a dictatorship and he can do whatever he likes unchallenged. Was I happy with it? Wasn't really happy or anything else, we're not a member anymore. But the point I have been making for...

They do, so if someone comes over with enough money for a weekend how do you ensure they leave at the end of the weekend?

5 mins to kick off and top tier is still half empty with Cologne fans spread all over the bottom tier. Did the thousands of Cologne fans bringing Oxford Street to a standstill earlier today not give the police the idea there might be a few more than they were expecting?

But you've said we don't have the manpower to enforce a system like that. Or are you suggesting a ban on tourists?

No I'm not. I've repeatedly asked you what form the UKs immigration policy should take post Brexit and the response so far has been its down to Junker. EU rules are down to the EU, non EU rules are not down to the EU. If the rules that are causing us problems, or perceived problems, then...

That's the whole point which you can't seem to comprehend!!! If we don't have the resources now how are these resources going to magically appear when we leave the EU? I would suggest they won't and nothing will really change. People such as those who are currently here legitimately will...

Aren't you making an assumption that the reason deportation is difficult is down to the EU and that leaving will resolve those issues when in fact the things that people object to aren't as a result of EU membership and will therefore still apply to us once we leave.

Far from it but I fail to see how we can both leave the EU to enable us to have total control and not be dictated to by Europe and also be dependent on the wishes of the EU as to how we shape our own immigration policy.

I would assume he either has the money to cover his stay and therefore meets the requirements or he would get a job and therefore meet the requirements. Yes of course as he would still be in the first three months.

Do Arsenal do the same as Man Utd. For example if you want a ticket for the Spurs game you have to buy a ticket for a Europa league game nobody is interested in. Assuming they're only letting fans with tickets in its pretty much all Cologne fans in there so far. Shambles and doesn't seem like...

Its nothing to do with Junker or the EU remember, we're taking back control and don't have to listen to anyone else. It will be down to the UK to decide who is allowed in to the UK. Why can nobody say, or even give a vague idea, of what the rules are likely to be. Its as if the whole thing...

I blame SISU.

On what basis? Right of residence is only granted for 3 months for non workers and clause 21 states it 'left to the host Member State to decide whether it will grant social assistance during the first three months of residence'. Article 7 Clause 1 states that to stay past 3 months you have to...

You do where I sit. Only problem is the chap providing it seems to have a squad list from about 5 years ago!

But just a few posts ago we were told Junker had total control and could do what he liked. Now you're saying its Germany that is all powerful. Which one is it?