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How many games of his 4 competitive matches 1. Unless we lost all 4 matches including a heavy defeat or two. I could never support sacking a manager. You have backed to sign 9 players that quickly. Never mind 1 win albeit in the cup and 3 draws. Do you think a win in the cup is...

I was under the impression from posters on here this summer that the only people anywhere near us (9) was preston. However they had released far more than us. That was from grendel I think. Apologies Grendel if it was not you.

Otis you are going to hate me for this but this is the alternative view that my optimism emanates from. 5 of our defeats occured on the bounce after we sacked our manager. I do not think that is a coincidence and that it was off field matters that led to those defeats. MR has come in and...

We made 13 more signings of outfield players this summer than last aswell. Could that of helped at all.

Just waiting for the grinch to come on and tell us we can't because our squad is the worst of all time.....

Cheeky bugger :)

People reacted in the opposite way to the Brentford defeat. Let me enjoy the moment of regaining my optimism. :)

30 odd games to go 11 points off 6...........

What about the argument that these players may have performed for AT and three games was not long enough to find out. You can judge Robin's signings. He signed them as he believed they will improve the squad. Otherwise he would not have signed them. If they don't perform and don't improve...

I agree bsb this season was always going to have a bit of transition, in it and it would take a bit of time to adjust. Which is why I think wag and TF were a bit over expectant in those early games.

Yes we have the biggest and strongest squad in this division. We will win. Glass 3/4 full

Bloody hell fellas, have a sensible debate

Fair comment I typed the second post before seeing your second post. I understand where you are coming from now. Yes I was very optimistic. I just can't see how we can sign 14 players in league one and they are,all rubbish. I can't buy that. Never mind the players we already had...

OSB. I agree with you. How many teams in division have the players we had before we signed anyone. I would say prior to signing anyone. Our squad would be in a relegation fight. We have since signed 14 players. Unles AT, RS, MR have no idea about footey. Those 14 must have something about...

So I like Robins. I don't think thorn should have been sacked after 3 matches. I thought it took too long long to sign robins. My PRO sisu comments .......... Please if you are not spouting rubbish post them here..... If you don't, well I suppose I don't need to say anymore really ........

Are you for real stupid07

There is ability there. I can't believe AT RS Carsley MR between them have signed 14 players not good enough to go up. On top of what we already kept The question is how do you get them to perform

Well put reasoned and rational points made. Just the way a good footey debate should be. Have to admit I am getting tired of boring one liners, with any real substance that attack one point in a persons opinion and exaggerate or distort what they actually said. I agree OSB the players...

A reasoned counter arguement well put. That is how to debate a subject. It is easy to throw in sarcastic one liners completely distorting a point someone else makes.

So despite signing 14 New players this season on top of the squad we already had. They should not be pushing for the top six, as they are poor for all the reasons above. Thorne has made 9/10 (if you include goldie) bad signings, Robins has made 4 poor signings. The sacking of our manager...