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I've said it before but I really don't think their concern is to separate 14 from the away fans. They are miles apart anyway. I suspect they have a paranoid desire to keep boisterous 14 away from the (occasional, perhaps naive?) home fans they are now allowing into 11 and 12. That would also...

I think you misread the post you were responding to here Pete. It said 'THESE are questions to be asked', but I assume you read it as 'there...'?

It's clear that they've enticed people to buy hospitality when they would have waited for normal seats if they'd known that large numbers would be released today. The club knew, the fans didn't. I dare say you're right that it wasn't a cynical ploy, but that's been one of the many effects of the...

They've got Tony Mowbray sending out the PDFs?

LOL This just about sums up the quality of the ticketing website.

Well they did declare the game 'sold out', then actively pushed the hospitality seats overnight and this morning, before magically revealing and releasing large numbers of normal tickets again.

I quite often pay on the gate, but also have PDFs of 35 sets of e-tickets I've bought (normally 2 or 3 seats within each purchase, and I always use my supporter number). 13 of those have been in the last 3 seasons. Looked at my tally for the first time today - I've got 30 points. Clearly I...

Yes, and it's clear that SAG aren't worried about away fans, it's the home fans in the corner they are paranoid about.

Believe me it will be 'lively' in there!

Which would have been OK if it had been clear. But it offered you a seat in a 'Standard' zone, let you select and take it forward. But then it told you it didn't meet your 'criteria' and asked you to clear your (non existent) filters. System just badly configured. I'm not an ST holder so I don't...

We're gonna need a bigger stadium.

Extra tickets for ST holders is fine and makes sense for away games / Wembley etc. because you can select a bunch of seats together. Bad idea for a home game because if people want to sit together they will need to jump to another part of the stadium from their normal seat, and as we have seen...

Doesn't really explain why it shows them to you, lets you select them, takes you to the next screen then tells you you can't have them. Or the various people earlier who have reported getting all the way to the checkout and then being denied their purchase or kicked out. Some serious questions...

It's bloody mad isn't it?

It has to be said that Ticketmaster's web service is dreadful, and the way it has been customised to work with CCFC's ticketing policies seems hopeless. Between them they have managed to produce a labyrinth, when it ought to have been quite straightforward.

I got your point, and I agree. Hoping to find seats in good positions myself. I was only making an (admittedly flat) jokey response to you saying the tickets would be 'all over the ground'.

You mean they are going to put them in a bucket and scatter them like confetti?

Perhaps true (don't know), but it appears that legitimate members are being denied access unless they use workarounds. And I think it was said yesterday that lots of people (including ST holders) travelled to the ground yesterday, queued for ages and then got sent away? If true, was that down to...

Wonder if they use the same ticketing service. Surely there must be something written into the contract about availability and reliability of the systems, and some kind of penalty clause if they fail?

Would make sense. That way, if rival sets of fans come armed with oxy-acetylene cutters and get through the barriers, they will still have to contend with the 20 yards of dense barbed wire and tank traps in no man's land.