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Cant disagree with a lot of that mate. But you can see on here how the country is divided...some want stricter lockdown, otherwise want to best protect those most at risk and everyone else get on with life. Massive balancing act but as you say it’s important that people understand what the...

I honestly think that’s all it can be Pete ie manage NHS capacity, unless they know some kind of vaccine (and/or better treatments) is on its way so minimising impact until then.

I agree NW, a closure of unis (and to some extent schools - I think most schools will be breaking up this/next week anyway) would probably reduce rates far quicker than the new measures, but Id also imagine as soon as they reopen they’ll be another spike. Also, with unis you’ve got the problem...

Agreed SBD. I might be wrong but I thought this was based on cases per 100k. Problem is Bham is on 160 and Manc is on 500+ and yet both in same tier, which indicates other parameters should be considered (as you suggest something like hospital capacity) The bigger issue for me is robust...

I can definitely see disobedience of measures/new measures as I’ve said before. Already seeing it. Everyone bought into first lockdown but are struggling to this time

Only 30 outbreaks in hospitality last week (out of 900+) based on PHE dat https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/calls-end-10pm-curfew-just-22822642.amp I might be wrong but I get the impression this isn’t government pushing this, its the scientific advisors ps have...

yeah, I think this is what DOD and others were saying the other day Clint. They stripped out workplace and education numbers first as these are ‘protected areas’ (in terms of measures/restrictions not from Covid obviously !!) Ps looks like they might’ve stripped out Care as well

Very ! For the reasons you and others state (most people are likely to have a few interactions over a day or two so who really knows) Ps wherever you interacted with a student was probably the place though 😊

outbreaks (two or more from same location) is probably as good as it gets in terms of accurately(ish) knowing where transmission took place. Hospitality outbreaks were apparently low until recently

Yeah, snap. Couple of newspaper articles on it today though. It’s a glitch generated by Apple/Google’s underlying framework. Nothing to worry about (unless app tells you to self isolate)

Agreed. Although I’d hope a majority are isolating

I think sitting in the middle, like most countries, is the decision (rightly or wrongly)

To be fair they are intertwined and it’s a fine balancing act (not saying I agree with all actions/non actions taken to date by the way...although feel free to slice off that part off and reply, as others do😊) Ps I’ve been speaking to people on total opposite sides of the argument so whatever...

no point debating with you ROS, if you’re going to take stuff out of context I also said I’d support another lockdown but knowing what the end goal was and knowing that the restrictions are based on science. You may not agree with what I say but at least read the posts properly ps we don’t...

I would say someone with Chronic asthma whatever age is high risk and suggest they WFH if possible and minimise risk by avoiding large indoor/confined space gatherings (supermarkets). Probably different advice than I’d have for a person under 35 without any health conditions Same with high...

Why do you keep cutting the end of my sentence then ?!! I said (again) ‘Science does have mixed views on Covid and how best deal with it, taking all wider considerations into account’ scientists have opinions on the wider considerations and provide them to governments but I’m saying the...

I view what is being said elsewhere slightly differently ie far from expendable, there should be increased/focussed protection for those at higher risk As SBD indicates, care homes being a major one (and a massive fuck up in the past). For example would I rather see testing capacity focussed on...

firstly you’ve misquoted me ‘Although the article plays it down a little, Science does have mixed views on Covid and how best deal with it, taking all wider considerations into account’ The final part of the sentence being most relevant (Id detailed a couple of the wider considerations above ie...

Hmmm, not quite. I was saying immunity would having a bearing on what they were saying (not that I agree with it). Which it would. I am also saying the impact of all of the other things is currently unknown. Which it is. The lockdown was 100% correct the first time as it was put in place to...

It’s a decent article but the problem with all of this is there is little strong scientific evidence for a lot of what’s happening and the decisions being made here and elsewhere in the world, albeit our collective knowledge is improving rapidly. We still don’t know about immunity, which will...