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    The Christmas 2020 thread

    I’ll keep it clean (some of the filth I receive may cause offence)...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Seen these types of stats before wingy. Frightening. To be fair some will be work related (ie can’t afford to self isolate) but they’ll be plenty of others that won’t be. I just hope they at least steered clear of elderly and higher risk It’s why the track and trace stuff is pretty futile ! I...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sorry, i was just making a flippant/light hearted comment about you reading Tory media...couldn’t resist, it’s the child in me
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This is spot on Shmmeee and there some noises yesterday which gave me hope that this could be resolved with some political will. It will be the mechanism for ‘punishment’ for divergence which is the tricky bit. Hopefully they can agree edit- the below is plus VDLs comments yesterday is what...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Good to hear you’re reading a variety of media Clint 😉 I know I’m preaching to the converted but its obviously not all the EUs fault...it’s been a shambles of a negotiation for the past 4 years with both sides at fault. The free trade deal is (should be) doable, we’re already aligned terms of...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Might’ve mentioned previously, I keep an eye on hospital Covid figures if you’re interested Fernando (DOD and others). It’s only England though. If you scan down to daily admissions (which will have latest date on - currently yesterday 10 Dec) and then on spreadsheet down to No 6 (Total...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Yeah, london should be in T3. Don’t understand why they aren’t doing weekly reviews (to move people up and down tiers, may also reduce potential surges ie London now expecting to go into T3 next week so probably all out this weekend). Not sure about North/South divide though, Liverpool has the...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    I’d not even seen the toilet bit. I’m intrigued. Will look into it !
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    NWs correct, her, Rigby and some others were out partying
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Hancock on ! Joy ! No tears hopefully
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    I agree NW, bloody European countries 🙄 Seriously though, as we know it’s a highly contagious, partially symptomatic virus. When we were removing countries from the travel corridors it was always going to be a few days late because of this ie transmission rates were probably higher than numbers...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Unfortunately it was always going to happen Dave. To be fair, I think when bars/restaurants reopened (4 July) and then hairdressers, salons etc (mid July) numbers stayed comparatively flat. Daily cases took almost a couple of months to double from around 600 to 1200. The difference then though...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Looks like it depends on transmission rates. We’ve been doing the same with all EU nations since the summer anyway ?!! ie adding and removing countries from travel corridor. It says ‘EU member states can override the European council recommendations in theory, should they wish to’ So, presume...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah, bit embarrassing, just say leaving on WTO.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Don’t disagree with last sentence about lack of understanding of the issue and options relating to it (it was never really discussed in detail prior to the vote). Not quite sure I’m blaming the GFA though...I was saying that its a major consideration when seeking a solution to the problem
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I was saying ‘minimum changes’ not minimum impact to trade ie government website suggesting not huge amounts of additional paperwork etc. As I say I wouldn’t necessarily believe that or what Gove says, but Im also not sure it’s quite the huge loss of control for the UK that youre indicating...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s hard for me to comment Tony, as I don’t know enough about the final agreement or current/future paperwork. I’ve read some of the stuff on the government website which indicated ‘minimum changes’, which I wouldn’t necessarily believe, hence me saying Ill see what the people in the know say...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As I say no point debating. I’ve also said I’d reserve judgement until final position is delivered (for example I never wanted a ‘hard Brexit’ so my views might well alter depending on the outcome) You may choose to side with other European nations, however unreasonable their demands might be...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Agreed, it does appear different types of Brexit and no realistic alternative with GFA. Will see what NI business says once people in the know have properly reviewed the details (DUP/ERG won’t be happy but as I say what’s the the realistic alternative based on EU/UK positions on Brexit) If the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not really us playing games is it ?! Coastal waters around the UK are ours to do with what we wish From 1 Jan, on no deal Europeans can’t fish in them at all, France and a few others wanted same/pretty much access to UK waters as before. We’ve refused and want to do annual quotas. I could bore...
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