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For when he's playing shit: Mr Bigi Stuff Who do you think you are? Mr Bigi Stuff You're never gonna get my love.

If there was no hope then we may as well pack it all in now. But football is full of underdog stories. It's why we love it so much. As unlikely as it is, why shouldn't we dream big?

What about a Culture Club song? Gael, Gael, Gael, Gael, Bi-gi-ri-mana He comes and goes, he comes and goes...

Good point that. Marathon, not a sprint.

It's unbelievable because it is so early in the season, with half a team of new players. Give it a few weeks. If it's still shit then, then yes, it's time to review things. But after a half-dozen games I don't see how you can't write the guy off, especially off the back of the best season in...

I genuinely can't believe the slating Mowbray is getting. I hope he wins the league and then shoves the trophy up some of your backsides in punishment.

The best marriages have some rough, some smooth. Football clubs just seem to turn up their noses and want a divorce as soon as the first lady-fart happens. Sometimes it's best to stick with it for a while and see what happens.

But he hasn't said that they haven't been training properly, that's just some peoples interpretation of a comment that can be read another way, as per other comments above. And do you not think it's too early to say the team is worse than last season? Perhaps we should just phone the FA and ask...

This is just jumping on Mowbray's back for the sake of it. Six months ago he was giving us the best season we have had in years. Literally years. And now, after a half-dozen games of the new season, he's morphed into a clueless moron according to some. Ridiculous.

I reckon I could name a worse XI player-by-player than we have now. If we're talking as a collective, then after decades at the top we're in L1, so yes, in recent history this is one of the worst City teams. As was the one last season and the two or three before. The level we are at dictates the...

Maybe he did have a fitness test and passed, or bluffed a pass. Maybe he was thought to be fit and tweaked it as soon as he came on. But it's easier to blame the manager without knowing any facts, so I'll jump on that bandwagon.

I did try to clarify in another post; if the money was the same and one club was stable and one was reportedly unstable, most right-minded people would pick the stable one. I agree that money plays a huge part. It does in all walks of life. But so does stability.

Yes. But my post wasn't about Wilson.

Issues with being paid? Not recently. Not sure what that has to do with my post though? The point (for what it's worth, which probably isn't much) is that the club's reputation - losing the ground, losing the academy, fans protesting - puts people off. I know football is different to 'real...

I think he does realise that we need steel, but for whatever reason can't find it. As I said before, I expect this to be a fairly mediocre season, but I'm fine with that as long as there is evidence of a clear, coherent plan going forward. For that we need to give him time.

Reading between the lines (and maybe my thinking is muddled by all the nonsense posted on here at times) it appears that 'experienced' pros didn't want to come to the club based on its basket-case reputation. I would love to know if we really are the most bonkers club in the country, or if most...

I read his post differently to that. As in, that he tried and missed out, so now has to work with what he has. I guess that's why forums are different to conversations in the pub.

Very good post. 10 internet points for that.

I think he'll drop the formation soon., based on the players he has / hasn't got at his disposal. 4-4-2 is back in vogue, and I have to say I think that's something that would suit us with the players we have, especially as we now have so many strikers. I'd say that isn't a case of swallowing...

I think that the change to the loan system may well see a change in the way managers are sacked. Why get rid of someone just after a transfer window, when the new manager will be hamstrung by the old manager's players. If there is a change, i expect it will be around the end of November / start...