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That’s not true at all. It isn’t exclusively because of Brexit but it certainly has something to do with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s not meant to be non-partisan though is it? It literally takes a position. That doesn’t make it propaganda. By the way - you’re still pursuing this avenue to try and deflect from the original point I made. I know this works for BJ and Farage supporters but I will continue to call you out on...

I can’t explain it any clearer. I’ve gone out of my way to break it down step by step and you’re unable to respond with anything but that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quite a remarkable exchange with Grendel over this. Firstly, he diverted to the government leaflet stating the governments position was it is best to stay in the EU, is propaganda. A diversion suggesting he can’t genuinely deny my point. Not the first time I have pointed out to you Grendel that...

So it wasn’t in the leaflet which you called propaganda? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Investment is at its lowest level for years. Output is down. The only major investment is in electric vehicles and that’s on the back of promises of government loans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No none of that is in the leaflet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

“We were told companies would leave the UK in their droves, especially in the car industry. There is no sign of this, and UK car manufacturing achieving its 12th successive month of growth in July, with production passing one million units in seven months for the first time in 12 years. Lie...

None of that was in the leaflet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Logical fallacies in Brexit? Surely not... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Can’t see it. Maybe mid to lower prem standard but has to keep working hard and apply himself. Good luck to him though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

For me the key points are that they aren’t representing the views of all fans. They might feel they are based on Facebook but this site and twitter seem to have a different take. They must also understand that their stance influences the opinion of a lot of fans so they could be creating a...

I reread it recently and it was very fair and balanced. Leaving aside your attempt at deflection rather address any issues with Brexit (which I’ve have pointed out before) with everything that’s happened regarding misuse of data, overspending, collusion between different groups and the...

Just need Astute to turn up now with something like “So you’re saying Juncker is perfect? You remain whatever types can’t see both sides of the argument like I can” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We’re now supposed to believe that leave voters believed and voted for “project fear”. Can anyone genuinely deny that this is now a case of mass delusion fed by propaganda? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think you know negotiations took place and changes were made. I think you also know that most of the things we had to compromise on are practical or legal realities with very little room for manoeuvre. If you don’t know that then you’re not as balanced as you like to make out. What are my...

Exactly. Tweaks were made (negotiated) but it’s also the only way of meeting the red lines, legalities and reality of the situation (keeping integrity of SM etc) so I think Astute is being intentionally disingenuous here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unfortunately they’re going to be very busy blaming other people for the consequences of their actions. Plus some of them have more work to do. Cummings for example has said he wants to repeal the human rights act. Other will have jobs to do lobbying for changes to tax rules and such. Sent...

Yeah you’re right. Both parties are full of ideological crazies. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I see Farage is already turning against Johnson and Cummings for not having a pure enough vision for Brexit. It will consume them all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk