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Well if the company are telling staff the tariffs costs of no deal are 1.2BN and you’re saying the effects wouldn’t make any difference that’s quite a disparity. What result are you suggesting they wanted from any headlines? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was more thinking growth over the last decade with access to SM. European plants are obviously very recent so limited effect. Ok but you must acknowledge thats a very optimistic take. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What result would that be? That would also still be lying? While the company has been publicly anti Brexit this was more related to the internal email that stated tariffs would cost 1.2BN and make the business untenable. In public the comments have been less severe and more ambiguous about the...

Might be employing more but as it’s cheaper to manufacture in Europe how would that help cost base? And would the same level of growth have been achieved? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What is the real situation then and how are you aware of it? Are you suggesting the company is wrong or lying? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Indeed I meant it as in last q reported (1st one of this year) rather than last one of last year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you were working there last year maybe you are aware that the companies stance is Brexit will cost 1.2BN in tariffs? While your other points are all valid I’m not convinced Brexit will be such a non issue. Under what tariffs and trading arrangements? And how will JIT supply chains cope with...

Quite ironic that currency fluctuations were one of the “project fear” predictions. I suppose Raab will be telling us soon that currency fluctuations are what we voted for. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Typo, last sentence is supposed to say last quarter not last year! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Again what is your source? I’m not sure you can dismiss the breaking of just in time supply chains as a “short term administration issue” and what does it being a problem for all manufacturers have to do with it? It’s still a problem and it seems you are accepting there that Brexit is one of...

What’s your source for this? How much would currency need to fall to cover this? How much would the supply chain need to be adjusted to gain any benefit from currency fluctuations? What happens if currency reverts back to historic levels? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No biggest problem is China sales. Was this conversation about what their biggest problem is or if Brexit was one of their problems? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What bullshit? I’ve commented on this thread fairly infrequently and rarely engaged with you directly so I’d be interested to hear what was such bullshit. No some of the things were if there was a leave vote (emergency budget) some of we actually leave. Think you’re being disingenuous there so...

Yes, I work in a field related to automotive emissions. How what was a small thing? I have never tried to change history, I’ve gone out of my way to engage in the conversations and stated facts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The conversation was about the leaflet - are you taking about that or the general remain campaign? What predictions were wrong? A few were wrong or exaggerated but this has been massively blown out of proportion especially seeing as Brexit hasn’t happened yet and most business have not acted on...

No. Some of this information is taken from public knowledge (27 scenarios) some of it from internal emails (1.2 BN - although I think this might have been publicly stated but I’m not certain). The emissions specific stuff has also all been in the news but is also the field I work in. Sent from...

Sorry Grendel I’m not sure what you are asking here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well no it isn’t all to do with Diesel engines. That is one factor. JLR have 27 Brexit scenarios they are spending money on preparing for and it is one of the reasons they have held off on investment until receiving a loan guarantee. They also said that no deal Brexit would cost 1.2 BN in...

I said people don’t support the EU out of fear. You are making a different point, fear of the consequences of leaving, that is not the same thing. I’m sure some did vote out of fear but as we haven’t left yet and those things could come true depending on the financial arrangements after leaving...

Your reply was to the post where I explained the flaws in Grendels argument and that what he considered propaganda wasn’t in the leaflet. What have I not explained? What have I not answered? It’s you who can never engage in anything directly and instead lectures everyone on how you are the...