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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Once again you just did say it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Doesn’t the backstop allow for a hybrid solution in future? Isn’t the whole point that it’s there in case any of these alternative solutions never transpired and being practical? There’s also the small issue that the ERG will vote anything down so although we can try and find a solution that is...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What could they offer though if they even wanted to? They can’t magic away the issues of the Irish border with goodwill. The only way I can see any alternatives coming up anywhere is if we changed our red lines but any fundamental changes would require another long negotiation period. Sent...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because the negotiations have absolutely nothing to do with bargaining power and leverage in the way the public perceive it and are more based on cooperation and pragmatism. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah but he’s got to repeat his nonsense while claiming “I don’t listen to propaganda”. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Don’t worry he’s just starting an argument with himself so he can later claim to have been right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well for a start a choice between no deal and a Corbyn government isn’t a real option but a choice between remain and a Brexit option is a possible choice. It’s comparing different things and as such complete nonsense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Weren’t you complaining the other day about these survey questions being phrased to lead people to an answer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    When he asked for the facts I don’t think he actually wanted to see them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I wouldn’t say that makes you an extremist but that that language is being used to flame extremism. I’d also disagree with you on a point. If the argument is what the democratic principles engrained in this country are then those principles are parliamentary democracy and not refendrums (or...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t disagree that will be a problem but it’s a problem to some extent already. Also, what do you think will happen when people are losing their jobs because of no deal, they will go to extremism. Basically the choice is piss of half the country while remaining in the E.U. and keeping...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m not saying there won’t be riots or whatever but even the governments own analysis shows any amount of rioting is not going to be a patch on no deal ramifications. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This could end up happening because people are so bored but the disruption of potential riots in the event of revocation would be nothing compared to the disruption from hard brexit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not allowed? You literally just said it and somebody agreed with you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    3) it surely doesn’t mean that anyway. It means the referendum has no validity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s funny how you’re now for another kind of vote when you think it might go in your favour. 1) There will be a GE once/if no deal ruled out. 2) A GE will likely not return a majority for anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m saying that once the rules are broken the notion of democracy is fragile. To follow through with the referendum might be the easiest, less politically explosive choice but anyone claiming to do so is the best way to honour democracy is only kidding themselves. Sent from my iPhone using...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In other words “it doesn’t matter if the rules of democracy are broken if I get what I want” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The obvious act of a democracy would be to ignore a vote that had illegal activity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It should be pointed out that the odds are overwhelmingly in favour of Brexit happening. But it won’t happen until it’s no deal forced through against the will of the majority or somebody builds some bridges and bundles through a soft Brexit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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