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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Repeating yourself doesn’t make it right. If Hamas actions weren’t with the “intention of destroying all or a substantial part of, a group”, what was its intention?
  2. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    From my POV, the pot is calling the kettle black. With respect, I think my views are more in line with majority opinion than yourself.
  3. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Why is a terrorist attack and not genocide? Hamas literally put their war crimes on social media and there were multiple examples of people celebrating that they killed Jews. They didn’t care if their victims were Arab Israelis because there is no distinction for Hamas between Jew and Israeli...
  4. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    That’s an insightful remark because you expose what many people of on the ‘Pro-Pal’ side don’t actually believe in a two solution because the view is that all of the land is occupied. Again, you see this regularly at demos where you see people wearing necklaces, hoodies, T-shirts that depicts...
  5. Mucca Mad Boys

    Our strikers……

    ‘Most of you’ were wrong…
  6. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Can we agree that Hamas’ actions on October 7th were genocidal? No one is saying that. The impact, however, clearly felt by Jewish people the most. Ironically, the linked you shared demonstrates how Arab Israelis and the Druze are well integrated in Israeli society. I don’t think Gaza or the...
  7. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    With respect, anyone who calls Israel’s war ‘genocidal’ but not Hamas’ attack on October 7th 2023 lacks moral clarity or is playing with definitions.
  8. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Tel Aviv is a city whose population is 90% Jewish. That accusation of anti-semitism is childish.
  9. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Hang on, Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. It’s not a terrorist attack at all. It was actual genocide. They deliberately targeted non-combatants and civilian areas away from military targets. The IDF weren’t embedded in the Kibbutz or supernova festival.
  10. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    This includes the West Bank who were more supportive of Hamas’ incursion than in Gaza… The polling was published in Dec 2023 so was conducted shortly after the events.
  11. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Was October 7th 2023 genocide?
  12. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Polling is unreliable in the West Bank and Gaza, but the data we have suggests there was widespread support for Hamas’ actions on October 7th 2023. 72% polled supported kicking this conflict off. With neighbours like that, the prospects of a peaceful two-state solution is little to none...
  13. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    There were mass protests against Israel on October 8th 2023 before there was a military response. People should think about that. No, I don’t. Hamas deliberately embeds itself in civilian infrastructure. It’s not a conventional war (lik Ukraine-Russia) where there is a clear demarcation...
  14. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    100% disagree. I understand a small bit of Arabic and on more than one occasion in Birmingham and London, I’ve heard the word ‘Yahoud’ be chanted at Pro-Pal demos. No social media, that’s being out and about. We literally had a Syrian migrant called ‘Jihad’ attacked a synagogue a couple of...
  15. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    I don’t support any football fans being banned because the authorities should be on top of it. In any case, the UK has hosted team with much worse reputations of hooliganism and in the case of Turkish football fans, clubs who have killed English fans abroad (Galatasary). In this specific...
  16. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    This is more telling about Pro-Pal demos than Israeli football fans. There’s more Italians worried about protesting the Israeli football team than actually going to the match… October 7th was an attack with genocidal intent so anyone at these demos is implicitly supporting genocide themselves...
  17. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    The pertinent question is why are these fans not guaranteed safe passage in our second biggest city? There wouldn’t be concerns if Tel Aviv were playing in Oxford. The multicultural dream is that we become this melting pot with shared common values. Two ironies here: - Jenrick just got...
  18. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    In this context, it is because it’s specifically referring to people coming to Birmingham for the match. There is an equivalence You wouldn’t accept it if Tommy Robinson referred to all Afghans crossing on small boats as ‘Taliban’. You would rightly denounce that as racists. In the Middle...
  19. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    Israel’s civilian to combatant ratio in the death toll is lower than almost any war in recent history. So unless you consider all war as genocide, I disagree with your opening statement. The IDF is the Israeli military so it’s a byword for Israeli and Jew. The cleric chose his words carefully...
  20. Mucca Mad Boys

    Israel - Palestinian Conflict

    No. The Tel Aviv fans haven’t been banned because of the risk of violence with Villa fans. It’s the wider risk of disorder on the streets with ‘counter protestors’ and from Amsterdam, clashes with local residents because of Birmingham’s demographics. It’s a failure of policing if they feel...
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