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Understood. Can I just clarify this point: is a city that is manufacturing and transportation hub a legitimate military targets? Simple yes or no will suffice.

Terrible example to use because last time I checked, Northern Ireland is a part of the UK. Gaza and the West Bank are not part of Israel. What Hamas and the PLO does holds weight.

Hamas is the elected authority in Gaza and responsible for governing the region. That’s a v tenuous justification. It was little to no strategic importance in terms of Germany industry which is heavily concentrated in the Ruhr. We bombed that city because its cultural significance and as part...

Interesting comment to make. Let’s explore that: Are Hamas not a real combatant?

Just to be clear, non-military targets? In the context of WW2, the objective was to win the war and therefore, the means ends justify the means. In war, things aren’t black and white - there’s a lot of morally grey areas. The nuking of Japan is a great such example. The moral justification at...

Exactly. With that in mind, would you consider Russia’s actions in Ukraine genocidal? Cards on the table: I think Russia or Israel is committing war crimes, but not genocide. I do believe Hamas’ ideology is genocidal and October 7th 2023 a manifestation of that. If you and others consider...

It’s not whataboutery when the definition could be used to describe most wars in the 20th and 21st centuries. Was it genocidal action when we blitzed Dresden (no military targets) with fire bombs that flattened the place completely with 25k people dead in one night? If you apply the same logic...

Where’s the lie? You have the quotes. Put up or shut up. I asked when did it become genocide and my inkling was it was Day 1. The invitation is still open if your want to answer it. If I’ve misinterpreted something, I’m more than happy to talk that through a come to an understanding. This fake...

Stop the fake outrage, there is no lie because I’ve quoted you directly. 3 times. You were invited to clarify any details I may have misunderstood, this was declined. With respect, you’re not getting an apology and nor are entitled to one.

Disagreeing with the UN’s definition is “a take”. Looking back historically, when we bombed Dresden in WW2, was that genocide? It was a vindictive attack on civilian area. Or, take the nuclear bombings in Japan where non-military The reason I use WW2 is because it was a righteous war imo. But...

But they’re not trying to wipe out Gaza, they’re trying to wipe out Hamas who hides in plain sight among ordinary Palestinians and base themselves in hospitals and places of worship. Looking at the peace plan, Hamas will be ousted and the Gaza Strip remains under Palestinian control. 70k...

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The same UN will call Russia’s actions in Ukraine as war crimes but stops short of calling it genocide. Why? Russia bombs civilian areas. It doesn’t allow aid full stop. Abducts Ukrainian children. Russian officials have denied the legitimacy of Ukrainian statehood. All things similar that is...

You said ‘when the genocide begun’. In your mind, when did Israel’s actions become genocide? Clearly it was between October and December 2023 because the you rationalised the support of Palestinians of Hamas’ ‘vile terrorist actions’ (your words) in October because ‘genocide had begun’. If you...

This is genocidal intent but not Hamas’ actions? October 7th 2023, the Kibbutz communities were targeted and the supernova dance festival. Women were raped and civilians abducted and Hamas officials justified and initiated these actions. By your own words, either both Hamas and the IDF are...

It’s not a straw man, you throw around the word genocide freely. The simple question is that at what point did it move from war to genocide? You have given the game away earlier in the discussion when you said ‘after the genocide begun’ in response to polling published (not condicted) in...

This is childish. I acknowledge that there is extreme difficulty in waging war against an entity like Hamas in densely populated areas. As a starting point, Israel’s retaliation against a ‘vile terrorist act’ was justified to oust Hamas and retrieve the hostages. I’m curious whether you think...

Then why do you struggle to apply the same definition to Hamas actions. More specifically, at what point does war become genocide? You said earlier ‘after the genocide begun’. Which was when? The moment Israel entered Gaza or was there a specific event where the line was crossed?

You have to understand Hamas to understand Israel’s response. Frankly, Hamas is a genocidal death cult who do not want to coexist with Israel and changing its charter shouldn’t kid anyone. With that in mind, how does Israel conduct war with an entity that wants to Palestine to be ‘free from the...

The population of Gaza is 2m, so what’s your point? Yep but not in the way you think. So Hamas militants invade Israel, rejoice in specifically killing Jews and that is not genocidal? Using the definitions you and others rely on for your own purposes, scale isn’t actually important. It’s the...