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  1. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Co’mon now, use your noggin. If you deny the foreign spouse access into the country… they can’t settle down. There’s no point banning the marriages per se because people will find a loophole. For example, an Islamic marriage (the same for most religions) is religious ceremony, not legal one.
  2. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    I’m not in favour of privatising everything. There are good arguments for nationalised train services supported by private services. Well, the immigration system is being abused in the name of ‘family reunification and right to family life’. In practice, a lot of communities will go back to...
  3. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Who’s actually verified that and as a %, is it representative? No. The Guardian are presenting this issue in an underhand way imo. The quote is implicitly misleading because it’s taking the exception to justify making it the rule [to accept small boats]. There will be a small % of high skill...
  4. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    It’s common for the UK to have this mongrel set up of half in and half out nationalisation/privstisation. Generally, you get the worst of both worlds. Take the trains for example, in practice it is privatised because it’s run by a private company different franchises but the government owns...
  5. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    “Among the refugees are doctors, engineers, scientists and journalists such as myself who led stable and successful lives until we were forced to flee to survive.” To save you trawling through the article...
  6. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Canada and Australia have socialised insurance systems. We’re one of the only countries where healthcare is completely socialised, all the healthcare workers are government employees and the buildings are owned by the government. As of right now, I just think that’s too much to be responsible...
  7. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Do you think importing labour from low income countries is conducive for wage growth? What causes wage growth? Typically the market corrects itself when it’s competing for labour. Remember the HGV driver shortage a few years ago? Wages spiked. In any case, the government is in all sorts of...
  8. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Migrant arrives aged 25 to retirement (modelled up to 100)… how much tax they pay v cost of public services they consume. Frankly speaking, the costs seem to focus on the pensions. I’m note entirely sure how they modelled the exact costings of schooling (migrants have children too) and the NHS...
  9. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Increase funding to train more domestically and scale down the need to import the labour. You can’t justify the immigration system on the NHS. Particularly when the government is cutting funding for training spaces and trainee roles in the NHS, such as nurses and doctors. Why do you and others...
  10. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    In what sense?
  11. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Have you never admired Denmark’s public services? If not, my bad. To answer the question, yes. They also make it v clear that asylum is a temporary arrangement. In the UK, once an asylum claim is accepted, it is effectively a pathway to permanent settlement (ILR) and therefore, your children...
  12. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    It’s a legacy of countries with massive flows of net negative migration. The Irish and Italian diasporas led to huge population declines in those countries. At a guess, I’d assume Albania has a similar law because its diaspora outnumbers the population of Albania itself*. In the context of...
  13. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    To you, it was on migration more broadly. To @chiefdave it was a specific mentioned on illegal migration which is primarily driven by small boats. To broaden the scope of my answer, they should deny asylum requests to people who originally arrived on another visa e.g. student visa. This makes...
  14. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Change citizenship laws? Being born in France doesn’t allow you to claim French citizenship on the basis of being born there. Japan almost never grants citizenship to foreigners. On the contrary, given how liberal Ireland’s citizenship laws are… most people on this forum probably could get...
  15. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    Is Denmark an authoritarian regime? That would be quite the admission give your admiration on their other public policy stances.
  16. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    How is it unlikely? Australia implemented Operation Sovereign Borders and the amount of ‘irregular’ small crossings has been 0 since 2013. According to Dominic Cummings, the Royal Navy reckoned its ‘operationally easy’ to implement a turn back policy. The only ‘political’ issues would be if the...
  17. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    It’s sarcastic because people like Darren Jones goes on BBC QT to trot out the line that small boat crossings are full of ‘women and children’. The vast majority are law abiding. But are they economically productive? There are some nationalities of migrants where 30-40% of them end up on...
  18. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    With respect Pete, this is drivel. Wherever data is collected, migrants from the Middle East and Africa are always overrepresented in crime statistics and welfare dependency. It’s not the ‘right wing press’, it’s the BBC reporting this on a daily basis. Who, btw, were found to be...
  19. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    It’s not just boat crossings. After the ‘relief’ that the Huntingdon train criminal was UK-born actually reveals something much deeper and potentially worse. Look at the major terrorist events on recent years; from 7/7, Lee Rigby, Arianna Grande concert to Axel Rudakubana… the majority of these...
  20. Mucca Mad Boys

    Immigration and Asylum

    It is Pete. Actually enforce the border and VISA conditions. The Tories and now Labour do not have the political will to fix the issue and this is why they are both facing extinction level events. There was a whistleblower in the Telegraph last week who claimed she was warned when rejecting an...
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