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The council lying - that’s what politicians do!!! In buisiness you can’t trust anyone, It’s a sick game in which sisu rolled the dice and lost, no one is blameless however. Regarding the secrecy, That suited both sides, the council didn’t want another stadium owner competing for a...

And just to clarify my own possition here, I don’t like the fact that sisu own us, I don’t like the fact that the council sold the stadium, I hate the fact that the Ricoh is now owned by a London rugby club. And I despise the fact that ccfc’s future is in some doubt. But those ARE the facts as...

It’s quite simple really, The councils financial position is what forced them to offload what was a cash draining empty facility with a falling valuation, to anyone with a few quid who was willing to take it off their hands. If you owned a second house and rented it out, and you could find...

Perfectly put sir, Unfortunately I fear you are wasting your time on here, This is a forum of people who’s ability to see common sence, reason, and fact, is obscured by their blind passion for all things ccfc. Anyone with the ability to seperate passions from cold hard facts, MUST be a ccc and...

The council cash reserves stood at £48m at the end of 2017 These reserves are tiny compared to the £613m pension deficit that the council were (and still are) struggling with. Wasps had stated that they were not interested in renting a stadium, so that possibility was never even on the table...

Yes they did, sisu forced them to do it. It’s simply a case of economics, what was the council supposed to do with an empty stadium? Once sisu had dragged ccfc out of Coventry, and made public their intention to build a new stadium of their own, the council was lumbered with an empty facility...

Does anyone know how long sisu have left if they are to appeal to the Supreme Court regarding the JR?

Very well put, unfortunately a number of people on here don’t wish to accept the facts as they stand, and would rather accuse others of giving wasps a free ride, or of being wasp apologists. But unfortunately, while sisu own the club, both ccfc and sisu are viewed as being the same entity by...

Any legal case dosnt have to be centred around the lease, sisu could use any reason to go to court, obstruction of business, restriction of trade, or whatever they could come up with. My point is, would the £100k rent (or whatever) be worth the risk of dealing with sisu? If wasps are in so...

Love it, good reply! But let’s just suppose, said rugby club was getting £100,000 per season rental income from their tenants, everything started out well, then one day, said tenant decided to take out a legal case against the landlord, for some frivolous reason or other, and withold its...

I guess they could go through old paperwork looking for straws to clutch at. That’s not being petty though, that’s downright bloody minded !

That last line certainly rings true, The whole saga is a pile of shit.

Allowing the existing tenancy to expire and not renewing it, would protect wasps from any future NEW litigation from sisu. If Wasps have zero dealings with sisu, what possible reason could sisu have for taking them to court, if you know of any please tell me. The already existing JR could...

It wouldn’t put a stop to the existing case, But I’m saying it Would put a stop to any future unconnected legal cases. Quite what those cases would be are anyone’s guess, but as Tim fisher says, sisu’s M.O. is battering people through the courts.

Exactly, well put.

The jr’s weren’t against wasps, they were against the council and their undervaluation of the Ricoh and the issue of whether the undervaluation represented state aid to wasps. Wasps aren’t kicking ccfc out, they are just threatening to not renew the contract (the result would be the same...

Ok let me put it this way, if wasps say “we aren’t going to talk to sisu/ccfc regarding any new tenancy agreement”. What possible cause for new legal action would sisu/ccfc have?

The wording would be along the lines of, “we won’t discuss any new deal with you while we are still involved in litigation with you” That’s not blackmail, just a statement of fact.

The risk is that sisu have a history of taking people to court, the specifics of any future case are purely hypothetical until such a case starts. Put it this way, if a mate of yours ran a buisiness, and he told you a hedge fund called sisu wanted to do a deal with him, would you say go ahead...

I hear what you say. But sisu have plenty of form regarding legal action, so as I’ve said before, why risk it.