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That is exactly my point. Whereas most things could have some small residual value even as scrap this is one where you know without question it has a value of zero. One they are out of contract you no longer have any commercial rights over them. EDIT: Apart from those that you may be due a...

Going back to Grendel's thing earlier about brand perception, it does seem Labour's brand is now poison. So is the Lib Dem's after the coalition after choosing the wrong hill to die on, which is unfortunate (or Tories coming up lucky yet again) as given the state of the Labour party 10 years ago...

It's this that makes me so annoyed at the 'the public aren't interested' spiel the spokespeople always go into. The man who is First Lord of the Treasury says he needs 10 times the average wage of a British worker just to get by each year, a lot of that due to his own inability to control...

This is another where the answer offered is the complete opposite of another person, both of whom appear to be non-Labour voters and thus the party must be looking to appeal to. You're saying the party has moved right whereas their base hasn't, but just a page or two ago there was someone...

The thing from watching that is given we got some many good finishes from distance, how the hell did we manage to miss so many clearcut chances?

That surely can't be allowed can it? If the player leaves at the end of the contract that has to be classed as an asset disposal and so the calculations on the disposal would negate the residual value? Esp given the millions of pounds we're looking at. Such significant purchases surely wouldn't...

But literally a few pages ago we had others saying the problem is that they're too far left and not focusing enough on the middle class under a Blairite strategy. So which is it? Are they too entrenched as a middle class party and ignoring the man on the street or are they not doing enough to...

Yes it can equal the truth. But you yourself gave an example which proved it's not necessarily the case. So as you apparently work for Jag why have you not learnt from your mistakes and rectified them? To which your, justifiable, reply, would be we have. But the perception among the public is...

Exactly. The perception does not equal the truth. I've not been paying attention over the last few years but I know in reliability surveys Jag were one of the top rated brands but amongst the general public it still had that 'will it break down?' mentality towards it, as had any British name due...

Not a priority I reckon given Dacosta has a couple of years left, even though he does look like he's got a lot to work on positionally but were he or Dabo to leave for some reason we could do worse than bring him back I reckon.

Robins

We need voter ID!

We stayed up easily and still finding things to moan about and reasons to have a go at each other.

I couldn't hit 'like' either - it felt wrong. Services in this country (and others to be fair) get cut so badly and it's the charities, volunteers and unpaid overtime that are left to pick up the slack. Salt of the earth decent people trying to make other's lives better and no matter how much...

Not sure about the lap. Probably have half a dozen ACL's from it.

Hope we're able to reel him in.

Rather unfortunate that the 'play' sign appears to be pointing at his dick. He ain't Dion. Or even a Liam Kelly.

True enough about the interest rates, although really the weird thing is higher borrowing by the country could be argued to create lower interest rates because a lot of nations (esp those with supposed advanced economies) have a sizeable public debt and run a deficit, so if they owe a lot of...

This I can agree on. He's not got the personality to appeal to those who'll vote for Boris just because they find him funny and entertaining.

I think I've cracked it! Argument on here is that peole will vote for Tories because they expect them to be self-serving arseholes who think they're better than them. So Labour just come out and say 'yes, we're self serving arseholes too who think we're better than you so which do you want -...