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America will be in the shit whoever gets in. It would be like the Tories against the Tories in the UK.

Brown sold off our gold reserves when gold was at rock bottom prices. The time to sell is at times like now. Prices go sky high and at a time we need the money.

Exactly. Labour took over a very healthy economy. It was the time to make changes that benefited everyone. Some changes were good but some changes were bad.

I don't want a Tory government. I want a sensible Labour government. I have already said about how we would have to pay for what we want and what we need. I agree. We didn't need free internet for all. We needed major changes to what actually changes the quality of life.

Is the country run by a woman?

Brexit? Is that what your problem is? Brexit fucked me over as much as every bloody government has for most of my life. The reason why my wife and younger kids live 800 miles away. And now the reason why we don't know when we will see each other again. But don't worry. I am used to cheap...

So at that rate was Labour at fault for everything that happened towards the end of the Bliar and Brown years?

Everything they did that had a bad effect is ignored. We will all have to work longer. We will have vastly reduced private pensions. Both because of a Labour government. The same Labour government that gets the praise. The same Labour government that took us to war on a lie. The same Labour...

Exactly. It has been generations since we had a government for the people that didn't mess the economy up. You have one side that leans too much towards the rich. Then you have the other side that either scares you with too generous proposals or takes over from hammering the man on the...

Keep an eye on this thread. You will see plenty argue.

I didn't say he wasn't the best out of anything or anyone. Was trying to put a bit of balance into the discussion of the Tories being at fault for everything. The older someone is the more likely that they vote Tory. Why is this? I will never vote Tory. They are always miles from my ideals...

Yes go on. I got hammered on here for saying Corbyn would never get voted in whatever he offered. Then when I got asked why I got hammered as it looked anti Labour. And you are not allowed to be anti Labour on here. But you are praised for being anti Tory. This isn't a party political...

Labour took over a very healthy economy. And this is what I am saying. Bliar and Brown constantly get defended. Ignore the bad but push the good. You would have a field day if it was the Tories that decimated private pensions, made us work longer, escalated privatisation of the NHS and took...

Convenience stores would be Mick Co-op

My middle name has always been Unlucky. My team is CCFC. My local club is Barrow.

The pay in the public sector is well unbalanced. Those at the top are on too much considering those at the bottom are not on anywhere near enough. But that is the same in most sectors in the private sector. You get your decent companies. But they are a rarity. Some of us are lucky but most of us...

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Brown? The sidekick of Bliar. The one who was the brain behind the smile. The one who decimated our private and public pensions. They speeded up privatisation of the NHS. They took us to war on a lie. People are still dying because of it. They continued where the previous Tory government had...

The press are making it seem worse than it is. The key word is 'is'. The problem is that it is going to get much worse. And he either doesn't understand what is happening or he sees it more important he gets in office again than the lives of countless Americans are worth. The only good news...

Not me. I want to work as much as I can so I can get out of the house as much as possible. I feel sorry for those stuck indoors for 23 hours every day for weeks/months on end.